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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:36 AM
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President Obama to Set Rules for Health Insurance Companies - eight consumer protections
President Obama to Set Rules for Health Insurance Companies
July 29, 2009 8:32 AM

Taking his health care reform push to the real world, President Obama hits, campaign-style, stops in Bristol, Virginia and Raleigh, North Carolina, in red states he turned blue last Fall.

Today he will outline eight specific consumer protections that he wants to be part of reform:

• no discrimination for pre-existing conditions,
• no exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses,
• no cost-sharing for preventive care,
• no dropping of coverage for serious illness,
• no gender discrimination,
• no annual or lifetime caps,
• extended coverage for young adults, and
• guaranteed insurance renewal.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/president-obama-to-set-rules-for-health-insurance-companies.html
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 07:45 AM
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1. Good start
I'd add

no accountants deciding which medicines a patient can take
no requiring patients to take medicines the doctor has already documented cause side effects before other medications are paid for
no blanket refusal to pay for lab tests (one of the biggest insurance companies refuses outright to ever pay for a food antibody test, which can be used to determine if a person has serious illnesses, like Celiac disease)

You know, if we don't get single payer, I would at least hope that even the Republicans in Congress would agree that we need to more strictly control insurance companies. My Congressman is a hard right Republican who will never vote single payer, but who has been responsive to my calls for insurance company reforms.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:02 AM
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2. Nice to see specifics
but all this will cost beaucoup bucks and without a public option, will only accelerate the annual double digit rate increases.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:31 AM
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4. Glad to see he's willing to re-regulate for-profit healthcare
but you're right--a public option is the only way to regulate cost-effectively. It's becoming clearer and clearer to me that for-profit healthcare must die, and anything less than single payer is fiscally, politically, and morally irresponsible.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:32 AM
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18. No, single-payer is the only way to control cost effectively.
The difference in savings between even the best public option, w/ subsidies financed by a tax on the wealthy, and single-payer is night and day.

Yes, I'm well aware that s-p is not on the table now, but we really do have to remember what the gold standard is, and push for any opening.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:06 AM
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3. Probably costs $24,000 a year who can afford it? n/t
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:33 AM
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5. Biggest question for the President - effective as of when?
Any answer other than "immediately" doesn't wash and is just buying the insurers more time to screw us.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:25 AM
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14. The crucial question.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:35 AM
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6. He "wants" to be part of the reform
I would prefer to hear him say they "have" to be part of the reform.

It's time to suck it up and set some firm guidelines, not just a wishlist.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:40 AM
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7. And, oh by the way, what happened to "public option" ?
Is that officially off the table or is it still on the table?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:58 AM
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9. Does sound a little like goalpost shifting....
:tinfoilhat:
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:06 AM
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11. Not just the goalposts - we're in a whole new stadium in a different town altogether
The Voters Healthcare Reform Stadium is now the Corporate Insurance Reform Stadium and we're playing in their hometown of Lobbyville. The buses with the Voter fans have unfortunately been equipped with faulty GPS systems, they are going nowhere fast and will probably miss the game entirely. They'll get there in time for some leftover stale peanuts and warm beer.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:38 AM
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20. Well, like Churchill famously said,
"The Americans will always do the right thing . . . After they've exhausted all the alternatives."

After this doesn't do diddly, we might get single-payer on the table.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:30 AM
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16. nope.
these aren't details of the legislation. they are simply benefits the legislation will bring.

but people want to feel like they are going to be betrayed by Obama. They get off on it. So I'm sure they'll fail to see that.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 10:53 AM
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24. they live for this despair shit. i can't tell if it's funny or pathetic.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:29 AM
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15. uh, these principles are about the benefits the package will bring
not about the specifics in those packages.

I'm so tired of sad clown failure porn.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:41 AM
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21. Please, DO tell me what the "package" is.
....
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 08:49 AM
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8. Good start, but as someone who is unemployed, I still won't be able to get insurance. nt
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:31 AM
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17. why not?
These are just benefits of the legislation as proposed. this has nothing to do with the specifics of how these benefits will be distributed.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:55 AM
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23. Health insurance companies will not sell me insurance because I'm unemployed.
I have the money.

I qualify for the extra healthy discount.

And they won't sell me a policy because I am not employed.
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:05 AM
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10. Back to INSURANCE REFORM, not health care reform.
Obama is folding fast.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:10 AM
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12. For-profit health care is immoral and inefficient.
Why are we spending all this energy trying to preserve a system that is doomed to fail and is costing us both lives and enormous amounts of money?

:shrug:

:dem:

-Laelth
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:44 AM
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22. Hope you can make it to the single-payer rally in DC tomorrow.
11 am. Link up w/ others from your state today by going to www.healthcare-now.org
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:23 AM
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13. If passed, when will these health insurance reforms become effective.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:36 AM
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19. When, how much and how bad will the injustice be toward
GLBT families who will be treated as strangers under the law to please the religionist bigots? How much discrimination will it take to please the Faith Based Office?
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