Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:25 AM
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So why was Jessie Jackson trying so very hard to diminish BC's role in release? |
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I was watching MSNBC to see the journalists return (ok, I know I swore off MSN, but this was a legitimate news event) and because of the timeframe, the Dylan Ratigan show was on and they had Jessie Jackson as a guest commentator.
He (Jackson) was doing everything in his power to downplay Clinton's role. He said Bill went only to "pick-up" the journalists, that all the negotiating had already been done. He said this before the footage switched to the journalists arriving and speaking and then Gore. When they came back to him after the coverage ended - he picked right back up where he left off, that Clinton had almost nothing to do really with the release and he used the same "he only picked them up" line. He really seemed to have an axe to grind. What's the back story on this? I found it very weird and in trying to diss Bill, I thought Jessie Jackson made himself look rather petty and bitter.
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:27 AM
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1. "You know, Jesse Jackson won South Carolina, too" |
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:27 AM
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2. Do you not remember Clinton's comments during the campaign |
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Jesse Jackson surely does... (I'm not defending Jackson, just understanding why he is reacting so petulantly)
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:30 AM
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3. Right. I had totally forgotten about that. |
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But Jessie Jackson was anything but subtle with his comments. It was obvious there was some real underlying animosity. So why did they pick him to make the guest commentary?
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:44 AM
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8. Jackson also dissed Obama during the campaign. He can't take not being Top Dog. It's that simple.nt |
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Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 09:45 AM by Captain Hilts
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:54 AM
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9. Bill Clinton's comments were blown way out of proportion, even when the SC Congressman |
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was asked about it later he was like it was a hard fought campaign and he did what he had to do.
So please, don't go there.
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:58 AM
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10. Xultar.. as I clearly indicated, I am not defending Jackson's |
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attitude towards CLinton--only explaining to the OP why Jackson holds his grudge. One has to "go there" to give a little context. I agree it was blown out of proportion by the media, but not, apparently in Jackson's eyes.
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:11 AM
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12. I overreacted so apologies. Jackson is all upset he's a nobody. |
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:31 AM
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:31 AM
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4. seems to be the way he is. |
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Remember the comments about Obama before the election? He can't stand anyone else to have more of the limelight than he does. It IS very petty.
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:32 AM
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if he isn't in the lime light he will try to turn it off. IMO
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:35 AM
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6. Because he's Mr. Storm Cloud. |
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He never got to castrate the President and his life has been miserable ever since.
You think those tears you saw on election night were tears of joy? Nope! The man was scared!
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Wed Aug-05-09 09:42 AM
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7. He has a problem with his diminished role in national politics... |
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and has proven himself to be a hater.
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:06 AM
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11. He's right, but still stupid-jealous |
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Clinton's visit was probably a pre-arranged condition for release of the reporters, not a visit to negotiate.
But why oh why didn't Kim Jung Il want to see Rev Jackson instead? Why? :cry:
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:18 AM
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13. Because Jesse used to play that role.... now nobody needs Jesse anymore... Jesse is sad |
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Wed Aug-05-09 11:18 AM
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:24 AM
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14. basically he is right. It had been decided before Clinton went that if he came they would be |
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:36 AM
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16. he didnt diminish anything, he told it like it was |
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Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 10:38 AM by Uzybone
all Bill Clinton did was pick up the journalists. For that we should be grateful. Obama, Hillary and Al Gore laid the groundwork.
Not to say Jesse isn't jealous but he was right about Big Dawgs role in this.
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:55 AM
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19. That's how I understood the situation as well. |
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I figured BC doesn't have the political authority to be making any "negotiations" in the name of the United States. He's just a good diplomatic representative in some parts of the world when the time calls for it.
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Wed Aug-05-09 12:15 PM
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27. I agree. That is not diminishing Clinton's role at all. Alot of |
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Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 12:16 PM by Phx_Dem
people worked very hard for months behind the scenes to arrange this and Bill Clinton's "front man" role should not detract from all the work Al Gore, the State Department and the White House did before Clinton was even brought on board.
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:41 AM
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17. For telling the truth??? Obviously, the negotiations were done before he went. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 10:55 AM by Mass
Do you seriously think that they would have sent him without something done. It would have been a huge and stupid risk taken by the administration.
This does not mean that Clinton did not do a good thing, but, let be real, he is no super hero. He is a good team player. I have not seen the clip, but I guess it is what Jackson was trying to say.
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:54 AM
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18. I'm no JJ fan but this is what I thought. n/t |
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Wed Aug-05-09 10:58 AM
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Remember, Jesse was the go-to guy for hostage release negotiations back in the day. But it was ALWAYS about Jesse.
Fuck that charlatan anyway.
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Wed Aug-05-09 11:04 AM
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21. I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure Bill and Jessie are still good friends. |
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Wed Aug-05-09 11:54 AM
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23. Because the Big Dawg was the US's "First Black President" |
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and Jesse thinks it should have been *HIS* title
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Wed Aug-05-09 11:56 AM
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24. Whenever JJ Sr comes on MSNBC, I turn to CNN |
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I'm sorry, I just can't stomach his commentary.
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Wed Aug-05-09 12:00 PM
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25. Rev. Jackson has been on enough of these "missions" himself to know how it works. |
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It makes sense that much of the negotiations would take place before you send any representative into potentially hostile territory, especially (in this case) a former President.
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Wed Aug-05-09 12:13 PM
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26. Bashing/diminishing Clinton is a good way to get on TV |
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In truth I am sure much work was done before WJC went.
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Wed Aug-05-09 12:21 PM
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28. According to what I've read, Bill was basically a high-profile chaffeur.. |
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Possibly more details have come out, however.
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Wed Aug-05-09 12:23 PM
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29. Because Jesse Jackson is a jealous has-been. |
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I can't remember the last time he said or did something that was newsworthy.
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