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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:11 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the News Media "wants" something untowardly to happen to this President.
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 05:12 PM by FrenchieCat
It would make a great story for them....

I know that is a sinister thing to say,
but still, deep in my heart, I don't think they care about much else...
other than themselves and their employer, and pushing their employers' agenda,
except for the couple I can think of that are not that way.

Look, maybe that is an extreme thought that just raced through my mind,
but based on what I'm seeing and hearing,
I don't think that these Corporate media reporters and their outfits
really give a give a shit about America or Americans...
not really.

Sorry, but that's what I feel. :(
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:15 PM
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1. most are petty, greedy, and insolent. No true leaders in media ownership
willing to be a public service calling them as they see them. Obama is a throw back to real leadership. Calm, dignified, rational. If we had anything approaching this in congress it would be a lovely thing to see. If we had anything approaching this in media it would be terrific.

They could say how wrong it is for people to behave so angrily and violently and offering total lack of respect to their senators and representatives in town halls.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:17 PM
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2. The media especially loooove the "Buying Guns and Ammo" stories
They are practically giddy when reporting on the crazies buying more guns because they are scared that Obama will take their weapons from them.


They figure, if something happens, it will be their chance to be the next Cronkite.

Yes, I think that most of them are that fucked up.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:25 PM
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3. That's really a horrible thing to say. Stupid and cowardly as many in the media are, most of them
openly supported Obama during the campaign and voted for him in the election.

You should delete this thread. It's vile.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:39 PM
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5. Yes, fucking reality is vile.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:33 PM
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4. obama getting 4 times the death threats as bush!
...and the media keeps fueling these crazies.

remember how upset the media whores got if someone even sneezed in dubya's direction?
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:03 PM
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6. I'm sorry, but these media conspiracy theories need to stop. They are self-defeating.
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 06:10 PM by Writer
Yes, there are bad journalists out there, and yes, there are news organizations that have abandoned independence to promote a specific political viewpoint, but this canard that they all work in unison with a committed purpose of destroying our ideological goals is as unfounded, and as downright irrational, as claiming that all the media are "liberal."

Many Democrats complain that NBC Universal and its cable news nets - CNBC and MSNBC - are at the behest of corporate parent GE, and yet MSNBC gives voice to Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Ed Schultz. Why? They know there's a strong liberal audience out there. US.

A recent UCLA study (2005) looking at political skews of various newspapers demonstrates that, for the most part, the media do skew slightly left, but to broad brush even a single newspaper with a political tone can sometimes be problematic. For example, this same study found that, while the Wall Street Journal's editorial page demonstrates a strong conservative bias, the news sections display either a center or center-left skew. Now how can that be when our assumption is that they're all "conservative?"

Even Bush-backer Clear Channel Communications - the largest radio owner in the nation based in San Antonio, TX - began opening up some of their AM stations to Air America Radio during AAR's nascent days. In fact, AAR's broad reach is likely due to Clear Channel's continued support of AAR content. Why? Like MSNBC, they know there's a strong liberal audience out there. US.

Why do we continue with these tropes while overlooking these inconvenient facts? I think it's because it's so much easier for us to attack the messenger than to accept that, sometimes, the news doesn't always play into our ideological favor. Yes, corporate ownership of news media has its problems - as the three examples above demonstrate - because under such ownership marketing displaces public service. However this committed drive to broad brush and characterize all media in such a cynical political context destroys any means of REAL media reform.

If you haven't yet, I highly recommend you get a copy of Craig Crawford's "Attack the Messenger." In that, he details how politicians over the 20th Century have expertly convinced us to disbelieve the messages we're hearing so that we concentrate instead on politicians' rhetoric. Think tanks in Washington have committed many years, dollars, and research to finding ways to make sure that we focus on the messenger and not the message - that we blame not the information, and the bad politics behind it, but instead blame the media.

By believing that all the media are conservative, what good are you doing the liberal cause? The only answer is to believe those few bits of media that are purportedly "trustworthy" - which are also likely forms that themselves are slanted in our direction. Are you truly informing yourself in that case? No.

So what's the answer? We need to strive for nonprofit news media. The problem is that, in the United States, the media have always been in the private sphere because constitutionally we oppose the idea of the government being in charge of information. We will have to find ways to advocate - LEGALLY - to find a means of establishing more public media without tripping First Amendment challenges. We do free speech differently here than they do in Western Europe - legal precedent does not permit the government to step in on behalf of "human interest." We need to press for both legal and congressional action (all of which would likely end up in the Supreme Court) to establish more space in the public sphere for news media. That's REAL media reform, not this partisan canard that I keep reading on political sites.

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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:08 PM
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7. fuck that. anyone who doesn't see Kennedy,King, and Kennedy as an ordered hit
is stupid. The interests who gained so much do to their deaths are quite obvious. Same for the Obama situation only even more so because the news is now an official business with revenue stream and profit considerations. THings Obama is doing or trying to do are direct attack on the wealth and power of a certain class of people in this country. There are many intersecting motives for why such a tragic event would be in their wish list if not their actual thinking patterns.

On the other hand, maybe they can know there will be no Bobby Kennedy this time around to calm the population and if the worst did happen, the riots in L.A. after Rodney King verdict would look quaint. I can't even say I wouldn't join in.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:13 PM
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8. Who are "The Interests?"
In other words, who's the mysterious "they" who conspired the deaths of JFK, MLK, and RFK?
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:37 PM
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12. the business leaders made up of white racists, military industrial complex
and others of our ruling class who sniffed out the likelihood Kennedy would withdraw from Vietnam rather than escalate.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:39 PM
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13. So when did these people get together? How did this conspiracy take place?
Show me the evidence.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:29 PM
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9. What "interests" gained so much due to their deaths?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:01 PM
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15. Wouldn't most of those people who conspired to kill Kennedy be dead by now?
It's been 47 years. It may have been an "ordered hit" alright but the ones who gave that order are either dead or senile by now. So I don't think they are any threat to Obama at this point.
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SeriousEbony Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:03 PM
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16. Join in on the rioting?
It takes a special kind of person to bash an innocent truck drivers head in with bricks and to loot
private places of business. How would you live with yourself after performing such acts?
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:32 PM
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10. drama and ratings, that's all they care about
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:33 PM
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11. You need to stop focusing on the negative crap.
Obama is doing a great job.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:56 PM
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14. Yes, too extreme. Chin up, Obama is doing fine. Just remember,
that mountain he has to climb is awesomely high, but he's still doing it, step by step.

Keep the faith, Frenchie! :hug:
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 09:11 PM
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17. CNN has a report card for the 2nd 100 days = They want him dead?
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 09:12 PM by masuki bance
Ok, you have entered the Twilight Zone.

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