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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:46 PM
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CNN Poll: Independents disapprove of Obama
A majority of independent voters disapprove of how Barack Obama's handling his job as president, according to a new national poll.

Fifty-three percent of independents questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday say they disapprove of how Obama's handling his duties in the White House, with 43 percent in approval. That result marks the first time in a CNN poll that a majority of independents give the president's performance a thumbs-down.

Obama's overall approval rating of 53 percent is down 3 points from a month ago, and down 8 points from June. Forty-five percent of those questioned disapprove, up 5 points from a month ago and up 8 points from June.

According to the poll, nine in 10 Democrats approve of the job Obama's doing, up three points from a month ago, with 15 percent of Republicans approving, down 8 points.

Broken down by issues, the president still gets majority support on foreign affairs and terrorism, but a majority now disapprove of how he has handled health care, taxes, the economy and the budget deficit.http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/01/cnn-poll-independents-disapprove-of-obama/



Ahh...so its the "deficit" and "taxes"...Obama has not raised taxes on the middle class. Lovely misinformation spread there by the media. Of course, Bush raised the deficit and now Obama must cut it overnight. Lovely.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:51 PM
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1. blaming Obama for bu$hit's mess - he was supposed to have ot all cleaned up
by now yaknow. :sarcasm:
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:38 AM
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35. Yeah, why hasn't he worked harder.....??????
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 11:39 AM by robo50
All I do is turn on my Tee Vee and he's making public appearances, giving speeches, town hall meetings, seeing the injured troops....greeting people, talking with Republicans and Democrats in Congress..... why isn't he working???



LOOK HERE!!! Proof he's been doing all these things...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/show/

you see, he's not working hard to please "independents", half of whom are REALLY REPUBLICANS IN HIDING

:sarcasm:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:51 PM
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2. I've seen via DU how cnn handles the "news" with
repukes getting the bully pulpit and the mediawhores not stating the facts about Health Care..so a "poll" of cnn's would only be pushed polled to manipulate bad news and it's from their viewers.

And, I know how cnn manipulated the midterm elections in 2002..which is why I dropped them in November of 2002.

Fuck cnn.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:54 PM
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3. Yup...the only good thing on there is Rick Sanchez
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:58 PM
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6. It's a wonder they tolerate
him with their agenda and all.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:37 PM
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13. Rick Sanchez is a freaking idiot. n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:00 PM
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29. Rick Sanchez is the only semi-liberal on there
He takes on RW idiots all the time...have you even ever watched his show?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:56 PM
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4. +1000
:headbang:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:00 PM
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8. ..
:headbang:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:58 PM
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5. So I guess that Independents really just stands for stupid people
who buy whatever the media is serving them.

Good to know.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:34 PM
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27. A lot of the "independents" I know around here tend to be somewhat anti-government, until they face
hardship, at which point, they plead for the government to help them.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:25 PM
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31. They're have a Libertarian streak, but they're really Repukes! n/t
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:40 AM
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36. "Independents"....these days ...are
Republicans too embarrassed to admit it.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 04:59 PM
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7. Unconvinced
Maybe I'm just starry eyed, but I'm completely unconvinced that these "independents" are all actually "independents." I think there's a lot of ex-Republican "independents" giving opinions in these things.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:00 PM
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9. What do they disapprove of, exactly?
And what do they suggest?

We always need these people to win, yet they are so wishy washy and superior (above all that political stuff - so they are "independent."
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 10:30 PM
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32. I thought many Indies liked a pragnatic, non-partisan approach
It's probably all the budget deficit talk, but the health care bill hasn't even been finalized yet.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:33 AM
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34. I hope then that their "disapproval" of the rethugs is off the charts
They are the ones that will never take a practical approach.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:27 PM
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38. Agreed! Obama is doing the things that supposedly appeal to them
The Repukes are not.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:03 PM
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10. "Independents" today lean more Republican
Edited on Tue Sep-01-09 05:04 PM by liberalpragmatist
Since the '08 election, many previously identified "independents" have identified as "Democrat" and many Republican-voters now identify as "independent." That explains why Dem Party ID has climbed and Republican Party ID has fallen.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:42 PM
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17. Those "Independents" are still Republicans at the core.
I don't think changing party affiliation changes long-held core values overnight. Many of them are simply fugitives from Bush but he's gone now.

I do think recent GOP propaganda has been trying to push the buttons of those (former Republican) "Independents" in an effort to suck them back into the fold.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:28 PM
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25. I believe they always did. That's what I heard in prior elections, anyway. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:14 PM
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11. "nine in 10 Democrats approve of the job Obama's doing, up three points from a month ago" Evidently,
the "liberals are abandoning Obama" message failed so CNN had to come up with another headline.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:38 PM
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15. They will still promote it, some DU'ers will too. n/t
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:34 PM
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12. These are the flakiest voters in the country, they go which ever way the wind is blowing.
If the Democrats do manage to pass a good healthcare bill, I suspect they will come back and support the Prez.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:38 PM
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14. A lot of "Independents" are disgruntled Republicans. And whacked out Libertarian types
At any rate I would like to see some other polling on this. One from CNN is not enough.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:41 PM
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16. I am leery of these kinds of polls. Whenever I get polled they don't
have a slot for "Green" so they say "Ok, well I'll just mark you as an Independent (or undecided)."

Really chaps my hide. Also goes to show Independents are anything but a like-minded cohesive group if they are throwing Greens, Socialist, Libertarians, Constitutionalists etc in there along with people who are genuinely independent of any party. So who knows what the polls actually mean because you don't know if it's more liberals who are annoyed or more conservatives who are annoyed but for different reasons.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:04 PM
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20. Exactly!
I've seen a lot of Republicans calling themselves "independents" ever since the Bush bank-bailouts. The term encompasses to much for it to be a useful poll.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:46 PM
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18. A corporate-owned msm poll... nothing else needs to be said.
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:51 PM
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19. But is Gallup corporate-owned?
And Obama's approval is 52% there. I don't see things as corporate vs. not corporate when it comes to polls. Rasmussen, for example, is a non-corporate right-wing hack who sucks at polling.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:08 PM
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21. Meh
Polls go up and down, although I am little worried now, this is too soon of a drop. Maybe it's just a glitch in the "experts" computers!:argh:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:54 PM
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22. Independent here.
Voted for O. He's not being liberal enough, is catering to blue-dogs and repukes and that pisses me off to no end.
I'm still waiting for the pony, too. :P
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:18 PM
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23. This is bullshit. How the hell are you going to disapprove of him cutting middle class taxes?
And he hasn't raised them on ANYONE.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 11:19 PM
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33. not about taxes,it's about him allowing the right to get away with lie after lie
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 07:33 PM
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24. Focus on Big Media, and think aggressively
Nothing will change while taxpayer dollars are financing the drug-addled pedophile telling our troops every day that the president is a communist, racist, and traitor, and all the rest of media taking his cue. Please look ahead to the two different endings
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:33 PM
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26. I call myself an Independent. Ask me anything!
I approve of how Obama is handling his job (not that I don't have SOME problems with his performance...like his not being strong enuf on the healthcare reform debate going on).

I voted for Obama (as did most Independents).

BUT....I am guessing that MORE people who were formerly Republicans are now calling themselves Independents, and they didn't vote for Obama in the first place. Indies always leaned right, is what I've heard in years past. But I'm guessing that that % of right leaners increased after the '08 election.

And now that the Dems are in power, I would also guess that some Indies, who leaned left, returned to the Democratic fold. The reason I think that is because I used to identify myself as a Democratic. For years. (We don't register here in TX to a particular party; you are whatever party you say you are.) But in the last few years I started considering myself more as an Independent. Since the '08 election, I've been tempted to start calling myself a Dem. again because I'm so proud of the election of Obama and Obama's performance and all. But I resisted and still call myself an Independent. But I would guess that some others couldn't resist, and returned to the fold.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 08:42 PM
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28. I used to be an independent myself until 2004...Bush pissed me off that much
I actually am way further to the left then I have ever been right now.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:24 PM
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30. Those "Independents" are really Libertarians who are too cowardly to admit they're Repukes!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:58 AM
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37. He hasn't been showing any toughness. No one likes a weak President.
Truth hurts.

Afraid to stand up to Republicans and conservative Dems.

Scared to go after the Previous administration on torture. Instead trying to distane himself and act like its only Holder's doing.

Not willing to take strong stances on Healthcare.
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