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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:17 PM
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I don't think anyone should be required to listen to Obama.
Not a school kid, not an adult. Nobody. For 8 years I turned off my car radio every Saturday morning when GWB came on. That is my right, that is everyone's right. If these stupid parents don't want to let their stupid kids listen to their Preseident, so be it. It is their loss, not Obama's, not ours.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:18 PM
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1. I think people who take their kids out of school over this should eat shit and die.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:19 PM
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3. Well, yeah, but that's their choice, isn't it?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:22 PM
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8. Should they be forced at gun point? No.
Should they get an excused absence? No.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:28 PM
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14. This speech should NOT be manditory. Think about it. We do not want
such a thing in this country. As racist and offensive as this particular case is, we don't want to be forcing this kind of thing on anybody.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:33 PM
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23. The speech should be mandatory, just like math, history and science.
Those skipping out should be punished accordingly.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:24 PM
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9. They have no respect for the highest elected office of the land
was a white president it would be different of course
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Mystayya Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:25 PM
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10. I had zero respect for the last guy in the WH
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:27 PM
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13. well
he was an immposter (he wasn't elected)
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Mystayya Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:30 PM
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18. Good point !
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:28 PM
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15. Godwin's law.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:30 PM
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19. Bush was NOT elected
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:00 PM
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28. I'm with you,
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:19 PM
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2. I suspect that President Obama would agree with you! n/t
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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:19 PM
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4. They were never "required" to listen to him
It's not mandatory. It never was.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:22 PM
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7. I agree. But it's in school, sort of like part of a history class and
I guess some people are pissed because schools are offering other alternatives. Fine with me.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:21 PM
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5. They're allowed to hate America. But I bet those same people...
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 09:22 PM by Ian David
... who don't want their kids to listen to THEIR President, also think we should be forced to say The Pledge and forced to allow teacher-led prayer in school.

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:21 PM
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6. Sure, in your car turning off your radio....
but a freakin back to school speech from the president of the united states in public schools? I think not. I hated bush with a passion, I didn't consider pulling my kid out of school for fear that he would "indoctrinate" them. This is bullshit and it clearly shows how ignorant people in this country are.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:25 PM
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11. That begs the question. These people are ignorant, they would
have lapped up every word Bush had to say but if we get to a point in this country where our children are required to listen to any president, we will be in real trouble. It is their choice, it's stupid but it is what it is.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:27 PM
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12. I think it is entirely appropriate for public school children to be asked to
lend their respectful attention to the President of the United States.

IMO parents who yank their kids from this event are idiots.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:28 PM
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16. The parents are Republicans - period
ie. they are partisan
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:30 PM
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17. Likely, but even so, they are at least theoretically aware that their
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 09:30 PM by saltpoint
kids will read about presidents of other political parties at many points between early grade school and their high school graduations.

A partisan response to a school curriculum is cowardly and debasing.

I call parents like that idiots.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:31 PM
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20. It's as though he were Black
so they are not buying it
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:33 PM
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22. There may well be a racist component, but the school's greater purpose
is to enlighten the mind of its clients' children, which is to say, the general public.

The general public is served by having a U.S. President speak with its students. The short-sightedness of parents who object to such an event, IMO, borders on the criminal.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:18 PM
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24. The parents are being organized
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:32 PM
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21. If I had to watch all those bloody car accident films in school
Listening to our President should be just as mandatory.

And less gruesome.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:28 PM
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25. When I was in school, the POTUS, whoever it was, was afforded great respect.
If children have to have a note from home to watch a hook-up to the President addressing them directly about the importance of education -- the shark was jumped a long time ago.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:28 PM
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26. Many of these same parents, imo, are also the ones who vote against...
sex education in school and then wonder why their teenager gets pregnant or an STD. These are the same parents who drag their children to churches that rail against homosexuality, liberals, you name it and they are fine with it yet will NOT let their children listen to a speech on education from the President of the United States because he is black and a Democrat.

They are hypocrites of the worst sort, imo.
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ezgoingrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:50 PM
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27. Why?
I had to listen to Reagan and my brother had to listen to Pres Bush I. Sure I look back at the Reagan years NOW and wonder how I survived but back then it was THE PRESIDENT! That's all kids see, this is a huge case of parents projecting their own beliefs/feelings/ideas onto their children.

This reminds me of when I talked to my son about sex, no really. I was sweating it, for days I was dreading it, but I gritted my teeth and did what needed to be done. I think he blinked once, said ok and went on with his life. A lot of times kids don't have any idea they are "supposed" to be worked up over things and as long as the adults in their lives don't tell them they move on with little fanfare.
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