John Harwood (MSNBC): "...Let's face it-in a country of 300 million people, there are a lot of

[jenmito]

stupid people, too, because if you believe that it's somehow unhealthy for kids for the President to say 'work hard and stay in school,' you're STUPID! And as a matter of fact, I'm worried for some of those kids of those parents who are upset. I'm not sure they're smart enough to RAISE those kids."

He was talking about the controversy over Obama speaking to students Tuesday. :rofl:

[Captain Hilts]

1. Kudos to Harwood. nt

[jenmito]

4. It was great. He started by saying this one is over the top and he's never seen anything LIKE this

and it shows you there are a lot of cynical people who are trying to fan controversy.

[KayLaw]

7. I know.

I keep thinking Terri Schiavo.

:crazy:

[Captain Hilts]

8. I'm used to hearing him on the Diane Rehm show....thanks for sharing it!

[jenmito]

10. No problem! (I never heard of Diane Rehm. Who is she?)

[Captain Hilts]

11. Radio chat show in DC on www.wamu.org

Friday mornings are the best.

Check out the archives. All sorts of heavy hitters have been on the show:

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/09/

[jenmito]

12. Thanks...

I'll check it out. :hi:

[Captain Hilts]

15. Nobody shouts. It's a nice change. Scout the archives for cool folks. nt

[Nedsdag]

2. k&r

[CakeGrrl]

3. Good on him

Someone needs to be unapologetic about calling out Republican-induced stupidity.

[jenmito]

6. Yeah...

I was surprised, especially to hear it come from HIM.

[rurallib]

5. Obama can't say Good Morning without having the nutbags

immediately put out a press relewase saying that it isn't a good morning with the unemployment so high and Obama's going to raise taxes and take away our guns. HJasn't been a good morning since the guy was sworn in .......

[jenmito]

9. Exactly. And these Repub. strategists who say it's the PARENTS who are concerned, where do

they think they got the IDEA to be concerned? Faux, Glenn Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc.

[Cha]

18. When the repukes get their talking points from rush fucking limpdick

..what does the country expect?

[emulatorloo]

13. Harwood often hits the nail on the head. K&R n/t

[Clio the Leo]

14. That was brilliant. NT

[kestrel91316]

16. Makes me proud to have Harwood blood in my veins, lol. I wonder if he's

a distant cousin......

[Cha]

17. Who's this John Harwood? I think

I love him:loveya:

[jenmito]

20. It's this guy:

[Cha]

21. Wow!

Now I know for sure!

[question everything]

43. He was a level headed columnist for the WSJ

and somehow "disappeared" after Murdoch took over. He and most all of my favorite columnists. I think that the movie reviewer is the latest casualty.

[BeyondGeography]

19. Wow...pretty radical for a Net head like Harwood

Getting his Howard Beale freak on there.

[WillyT]

22. Big K & R !!!

:rofl:

:kick:

[jenmito]

24. Thanks, WillyT!

:hi:

[Uzybone]

51. another great cartoon

puts it in perspective...

"one of these things is not like the other...."

[truebrit71]

23. That is interesting coming from him...

..he's not the worst of the presstitutes for sure, but he suffers from the same disease they all do, they fell in love with the sound of their own voice at an early age, and they are convinced that they are the smartest person in the room...

[depakid]

25. Trouble is- willfull ignorance and stupidity has become a virtue in 21st Century America

Loud and stupid is even better!

[renate]

26. wow--really? He really said that?

I am impressed.

And a little bit in love. :loveya:

[jenmito]

28. He sure did!

So was I.

[SeattleGirl]

27. I saw that.

Good on John for saying that, because it's the truth.

Some people ARE too stupid to raise kids.

[jenmito]

29. And those who are too stupid to raise kids...

are WAY too stupid to vote!

[Nedsdag]

30. Here's the tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXq5keti0Cs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2Fstory%2F2009%2F9%2F4%2F776928%2F%2DJohn%2DHarwood%2Dnails%2Dit%2Don%2DMSNBC%2D%3AThey%2Dare%2Djust%2Dstupid&feature=player_embedded

[jenmito]

31. Ooh-thanks! I hope everybody watches it!

:hi:

[The River]

32. Their Teaparty Base

is little more than a nation wide lynch mob
made up of barely literate RW extremists funded by
and taking directions from media demagogues in
the service of their corporate masters.

[Phx_Dem]

33. That needed to be said. Thanks John.

[Usrename]

34. It's about time.

I wish I had seen it.

[jenmito]

37. You can see it at post #30. n/t

[OneGrassRoot]

35. Whoaaaa....really? I haven't read the rest of this thread.....

I don't watch the news for one afternoon and something is said that is REASONABLE? Holy crap.

[jenmito]

36. There's video of it at post #30. n/t

[NewJeffCT]

38. And, here I thought Harwood was a conservative?

or, maybe he is an old-school conservative from the time when they weren't all idiots?

[jenmito]

47. No...

he just worked for the WSJ. But I don't think he was ever a conservative.

[Richardo]

39. Finally - some email bait to spam the RWers with.

It happens so fast they won't be able to turn it off. I've had to plow through so many idiotic RW emails that it will be an immense please to spam them back. Rec!

[Control-Z]

40. i've seen a lot of threads

about this but have yet to see the original complaint. been down with an injury, so missed it. does anyone had a link to original story?

[RBInMaine]

41. It has nothing to do with the message. It is about the messenger and yes, THEIR STUPIDITY !!

[BklynChick]

42. such a beautiful thing.

[Serge A Storms]

44. fact is half of the population is below average intelligence

thing is most of them are supporters of the GOP

[neuvocat]

45. And very easily manipulated.

Just make them angry and they get so emotional that you can make them do anything in the lack of judgement.

[lunatica]

67. What do you call average?

You can't have half the population being below average unless the other half is above average. So where are the average intelligent?

[graywarrior]

46. That needs to be a bumper sticker.

[Colobo]

48. Word.

[jillan]

49. He is one pundit that I really like. I love it on Friday when he's a host on msnbc.

[Deja Q]

50. ***zing***

+1,000,000,000,000,000^1,000,000,000

:D

[krkaufman]

52. Hilarious, true and I'm sure Bill Maher welcomes the company ...

... but I expect that statement is gonna cost Harwood.

[jenmito]

54. I don't think it'll hurt him at all...

he repeated it later, too.

[davidpdx]

53. Christ

The understatement of the year....

[pleah]

55. K&R

[scarface2004]

56. the president is coming....run for your life!!!!

what a bunch of effing aholes!!!!

[McCamy Taylor]

57. The parents have been trying to hide the fact that a BLACK man is president

from their little darlings. This is the only reason I can come up with why they would not want them to see him on TV.

[RedCloud]

58. And what if he shows them his *gulp* birth certificate?

And then says bullies will eventually be stopped.

[DrZeeLit]

59. Bra-Vo! It's about time somebody called ALL this out -- ALL the stupidity. Thank you!

[Bluenorthwest]

60. Good for Harwood

Someone has to do it, these people are nuts. But then again, when you sew the nuts, you do reap them. During the campaign, Obama called bigoted people 'good, decent and moral people' and swore that they would always be listened to at his table. He promised that. He said that bigots are good people. The message was 'we do not need you GLBT people, because we have 'people of faith' and Obamacans, all these faithy Republicans who are now all for Obama! They will stand with him, you are not needed.' Obamacans. Where are they now? Why did they think there would be such people? Did all that ass kissing toward the bigots help him? Did his joining them in the anti-gay corner bring him an ounce of support? Where is McClurkin? Where is Rick Warren? They were to be his backup, the silblings in Christ united against the Gay. Why do these men not speak for their friend, their President?
If Obama had been worth his salt in defending minorities against bigots, he'd have stronger and more able support right now as the nuts come out. The nuts who attack him are the same nuts that attack GLBT people. Same people he called 'good decent and moral' when they attacked my family. Are they no longer good, decent and moral people? Why were Obama and his apologists so willing to stand with the bigots against my family? And more importantly, why are they not praising these bigots as being 'good folks' who will always have a place at the table?
All bigots are bad. Not just the ones who don't like Obama. Also the ones who campaigned for him, and the ones he has in his administration, like DuBois. But Obama has said that bigots must be treated with honor and respect and invited to speak. He promised that would always be the case. So why do these bigots get everyone in a tizzy? Should you all not declare that they are good an decent, and they need to be invited to the table to speak their minds? Or is that only bigots who hate 'those people' not the bigots who hate 'real humans'?
The double standard and hypocrisy is stunning. If Obama had the ethics and courage of Harwood, we'd be in a better place than we are today.

[CTyankee]

61. Wow, there goes his chance of getting on Morning Joe again.

It would be great, tho, to pair him up against, say, Buchanan on this issue. But Scab doesn't have the guts...

[jenmito]

66. Scarborough feels the same way! He said a similar thing...

that there are conservatives on tv (I'm 90% sure he named Glenn Beck) who are making an issue out of our president speaking to students and he said, "Enjoy your high ratings. You're hurting the Republican party." He also called them "idiots" IIRC.

[olegramps]

62. I'm not sure they're smart enough to RAISE those kids...

I have watch programs that have interviewed children and parents who are home-schooling their children. They weren't educating the children but brain washing them that evolution was totally unfounded and that creationism and intelligent design are scientific facts. Everyone of the families that I have seen were members of extreme right wing evangelical churches that reinforced these erroneous concepts.

Just how many of these kids will be ever able to look at anything objectively? I just don't see the situation getting any better, but actually worsening as these kids take their place in society. It is almost like a cult of zombies that are being breed to invade society. It's like a bad science fiction movie happening right before eyes.

[jenmito]

68. True, but on a positive note,

there are way more young people growing up who are open-minded and liberal than home-schooled and crazy conservative.

[tanyev]

63. I was astonished to see an editorial in the Dallas Morning News calling it irrational.

Editorial: Irrational Obama protesters speak poorly to youth

05:46 PM CDT on Thursday, September 3, 2009

The hysteria in North Texas and elsewhere over President Barack Obama's planned speech next week to schoolchildren has been both astonishing and depressing.

All this because the president of the United States intends to give a pep talk to schoolchildren, urging them to stay in school and work hard at their studies. "This isn't a policy speech," a White House spokesman said. "This is a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school."

The nerve! If Obama exhorts children to be kind to their mommies, no doubt some critics will denounce him for trying to control family life.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/editorials/stories/DN-president_0904edi.State.Edition1.2668b3d.html

[jenmito]

64. VIDEO HERE (thanks to Nedsdag):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXq5keti0Cs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2009%2F9%2F4%2F776928%2F-John-Harwood-nails-it-on-MSNBC-%3AThey-are-just-stupid&feature=player_embedded

[Joe Chi Minh]

65. You wouldn't fool the poorest African children or their parents. The educational standards

of economically disadvantaged Zulu children, for example, are a lot higher than those of British children in state schools. Nor would their parents be dumb enough to believe anyone who told them that was a bad thing. And I'm sure that's replicated throughout the third world.

Socialist, for crying out loud even! Don't the bogey-man cries about socialism by the Republican riff-raff sound like some kind of dumb joke?