Republicans Want to Break Obama...What Part of That Does the WH Not Get?

[Bullet1987]

This isn't entirely about politics anymore. I think it became clear a while back that the Republicans are playing a dangerous game here trying to destroy Barack Obama by any means required. And the White House and Democrats seem to have this opinion that's it's still all for show. NO! I don't doubt for one second that there are sick-minded GOPers just hoping some nut takes a shot at him. It's not about a Public Option anymore, it's about defending what's yours. And right now, the WH just looks weak and lost. I hate to say it because that's an area I thought we would be strong in following such a strong and effective campaign.

Right now the Democratic Party desperately needs a fighter who will say what no one else will (but everyone wants to). I highly doubt Obama is that bold sadly.

[Metta]

1. O wants us all to just get along and he'll give up his base to do that.

As he's showing so far by being a Republican on so many issues.

[joeybee12]

2. How many times do they have to stab him in the back before he

realizes these people are not his friends?

[CakeGrrl]

3. You don't think he knows this?

He gets the Secret Service reports way before any of us have even a hint about them.

You can continue to "highly doubt" because he "looks" weak to you, but that's nothing but supposition. Basically no one is gonna know how it all goes down until it does, no matter how many threads are created to predict doomsday.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. The WH understands politics a lot better than you.

What part of that do you not get?

[Toasterlad]

14. Agreed. Obama Is Caving Because He Never Had Any Intention of Fighting.

If he had, his political expertise surely would have enabled him to do so by now.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Because he's in league with the corporatists, right?

:crazy:

[Toasterlad]

18. Yeah, a Politician Working For the Corporate Establishment. Crazy!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Maybe there's some way you could work the Illuminati or Joos into that conspiracy theory.

[Toasterlad]

20. I Know! It's Just So Ridiculous To Think That a Politician Could Be Payed Off By a Corporation!

Nothing like that has EVER happened before!

[Skink]

5. I remember saying Obama is a republican before the election but did anyone listen?

Although I would rather have a progressive Congress that writes the legislation and a conservative President that reviews and signs it.

[Baltoman991]

12. No one listened

because it was stupid then, and it's stupid now. Obama is far from a Republican but don't let that stop you from carrying out the agenda of the haters.

[Skidmore]

23. *derisive snort*

[iceman66]

24. I do not agree with your characterization of Obama as a republican,

but the real problem is that we DON'T have a "progressive Congress."

[Thrill]

6. The problem is not Republicans. Its the conservatives in his own party.

The Sad thing is he doesn't appear to want to or have the balls to make them get in line.

[kenny blankenship]

7. Obama and Baucus NEED the Republicans to be the Bad Cop

against the American people. What part of that don't you get?

The American people, especially the vast majority of working Americans, are about to screwed once again, good and hard. In order for them to go on liking Obama, he has to convince them he was saving them from an even worse fate. He needs the Republicans to appear engaged, engaged enough so that all the concessions appear like they're being given away to keep the Republicans from going berserk on the detainee - instead of being given away to the insurance industry donors, which is the truth of the matter.

If you're going to give away the store, you have to have a partner to come in and play the role of a hard bargaining customer. Gee Boss, he kept talking so fast and changing the subject all the time and kept me haggling with him for 4 hours, I DIDN'T REALIZE I SOLD HIM HALF OUR INVENTORY AT BELOW COST. Gosh I'm sorry! The problem Obama has is that the Republicans don't NEED to help him with this. They're happy to play along until the bill is a stinking turd, but then walk away so the Democrats have to pass this stinking turd all by themselves without the Republicans to blame.

[opihimoimoi]

8. The GOP MFKR Ankle Biters come in Hordes to gnaw on his legs

hoping to Divide and Conquer, as they have done these many past years.

They use emotional wedge issues to divide the people into small and large groups partial to their agenda...

Now that 8 months has passed, Obama can say he tried bi partisan efforts...he has extended his hand to invite healing and advancing....

This now allows him to address Phase 2....Governance w/o Pub Participation....The 51 vote will rule....leading to

demonstration phase...the results of his efforts down the near road....more success stories..

as of now, despite ankle biters from the brown shirts,

Obama has done better than expected..

Them Pubs...they wanna bite Obama so bad....they forget

Obama can BITE BACK....

[rudy23]

9. He's trying to figure out how to use them as cover for his "bipartisan" agenda

while they try to break him at the same time.

The best they can do now is using Snowe, the one R who will cooperate with them. So with a coalition of the Blue Dogs + Snowe, the White House can tell all of us "extremists" on the left and right to shove off, as he serves his corporate masters.

[kestrel91316]

10. You underestimate the RW. They don't want to "break" President Obama.

They want to stir up so much racist, christofascist, delusional hate against him that someone will kill him.

They want him DEAD, and they want the rest of us liberals dead, too.

[OHdem10]

11. By breaking Obama they are hoping to destroy any possibility of

a Democratic Party ever gaining power again.

First they came for Liberalism and the Democratic party caved.

Now they are coming for the Democratic Party as an institution
and they see Obama as their sure fire bet.

They really believe they are entitled to fifty more years
of Conservative Rule.

[Toasterlad]

13. Obama Can Only Fight Back to the Extent His Corporate Masters Allow.

[emulatorloo]

21. I Like To Capitalize Crazy Stuff Too!

[Toasterlad]

25. Good For You! Such As?

[emulatorloo]

26. Obama Can Only Fight Back to the Extent His Zen Masters Allow.

[Toasterlad]

29. We Could Only Wish Obama's Master Were Zen. They'd Probably Be Pretty Mellow, Then.

[WeDidIt]

15. Snowe is setting him up

No way will she vote for a final bill. she's getting a poison pill inserted and at the end of the day she won't vote for it any way. The Club for Growth is hammering her with the Maine GOP and will likely mount a primary challenge if she votes for the bill.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. How do you know he doesn't "get it"?

:shrug:

I think he's a lot smarter than some people here give him credit for. I mean, he didn't exactly win the hotly contested Democratic primary and the General Election by accident, did he?

[Skidmore]

22. Oh, puhleeze. The President is only as strong as we are behind

him, and all I see is a bunch of whimpering and handwringing. Step up and get out there. We will not be strong if we stand silently and let the entire initiative be steamrolled by screaming teabaggers.

[Orsino]

27. You mean, what part of it does the WH not want to be seen responding to?

All of it. There is something to be said for an Administration that does not descend to mudslinging.

[Honeyporter735]

28. first, he should fire Van Jones

and a few others that have brought way too much radical baggage with them. They only give the right more ammo.

[HopeOverFear]

30. I love threads like this. It makes it easier to know who to put on ignore.

[RBInMaine]

31. Obama has tried to "work" with the Pukes. Sadly, it is no longer a party you can "work" with. That

is what the White House MUST get through their heads. They need to stop trying to be "appeasers" and understand that it is all about trying to bring down Obama and Dems in 2010 and 2012. Obama and Dems need to get back up on their heels, put on the brass balls, bring out the "heavy guns" (POLITCAL agument and narrative "guns" that is), and let these bastards fucking have it right between the eyes. There is no working with the PUKES. You stake your position clearly and FIGHT for it while attacking the PUKES as "the party of old angry white men who say NO to everything, have NO ideas of their own, and are entirely OUT OF TOUCH with the majority of America." Call the PUKES the "champions of the failed status quo !" PERIOD !