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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:12 AM
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Who's Blocking Health Care Reform Now?...............Or the White House Itself?
There is a lot of truth in this article.



Who's Blocking Health Care Reform Now?...............Or the White House Itself?


http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/whos-blocking-health-care-reform-now-blue-dogs-senate-dems-house-progressives-or-white-house

Who's Blocking Health Care Reform Now? Blue Dogs? Senate Dems? House Progressives? Or the White House Itself?

By BAR managing editor Bruce A. Dixon

The only obstacle to passage of the president's health care --- or health insurance legislation is the White House itself.

..............Blue dog Democrats aren't to blame for blocking the White House health care bills either. The political careers of many House blue dogs are the creation of White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, who as head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee dispensed them bags of corporate cash to win primary elections against left leaning Democrats. The interests that owned Rahm, and still do, own his successor at DCCC, so the blue dogs are White House puppies it can rein it any time it chooses.

Senator Baucus and a handful of right wing senators are not to blame either. Some are Republicans, who simply don't matter. They don't have the votes. And the Senate Democrats with their hands on the bill are all choices of the White House, and all dependent on the good will of that same White House for a percentage of their corporate campaign contributions. Senate Democrats are keenly aware that a sitting president of their own party has literally hundreds of ways to exert pressure on any single legislator. None of them is crossing the White House either.

The only obstacle to passage of the president's health care --- or health insurance legislation is the White House itself. Barack Obama knows better than any of us the difference between what he promised and what is about to be delivered. The undeniable difference is dawning on much of the public too, and is reflected in sagging poll numbers for Democrats and the president. The dozens of Democrats who have declared they will vote against any health care --- or health insurance --- bill that does not contain what they call a “public option,” are only trying to insulate themselves and protect President Obama from the worst consequences of his own treachery in selling out the vision of universal health care to big pharma and the insurance companies. They aren't blocking the president's bill. They're trying to ensure that there is something in the bill they can defend to the outraged public who elected them to pass health care reform.

From the beginning the president hamstrung his own grassroots supporters. He made much of his vaunted email and phone list of 13 million volunteers useless by coming down hard against Medicare For All and any forms of single payer, which were among the prime motivations for their energy and devotion. So the people whose boundless enthusiasm swept Obama into the White House were not available to pack many of the town meetings or pressure the reluctant. Some Democrats, like Dick Durbin of Illinois canceled their public meetings for fear of left leaning hostile, and likely pro-single payer crowds which even corporate media would find it hard to ignore..............more .....


http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/whos-blocking-health-care-reform-now-blue-dogs-senate-dems-house-progressives-or-white-house
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:16 AM
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1. lord it takes some people a long time to catch on
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:26 AM
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5. yes, it does
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:21 AM
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2. appeasing your enemies instead of your friends is bad long term strategy Mr. Obama nt
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 11:22 AM by msongs
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:25 AM
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4. When will he ever learn?
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:39 AM
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6. when it is too late--as usual.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:23 AM
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3. I agree with this report.
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 11:24 AM by avaistheone1
All the stake holders did not have a seat at the table, certainly the American people did not have a seat. Single payer was not invited the White House Consortium on Health. Look at how single payer advocates were handled and how the doctors and nurses who wanted a voice were arrested. Shame. Shame.


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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:45 AM
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7. That site repeatedly accuses Obama of being Racist against African Americans.
I'm worried about what's going to happen with healthcare. I'm preparing myself to be disappointed. But that site absolutely HATES Obama. We trashed Glenn Beck for that. Why is it OK now?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:47 AM
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9. It has "black" in the title so it attracts those desperate for anything negative about Obama.
He's black you know?

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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:48 AM
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10. I was googling for some information. I
realize the site is not exactly obama friendly but I like the article. Hope we can focus on the article and have a discussion of its merits rather than the site itself.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:49 AM
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11. Another accident, huh? n/t
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:53 AM
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13. Morning Prosense. No accident now and not before.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:51 AM
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12. It's not even just Obama. It also rails against "the Zionists" and seems to lean heavily
on conspiracy theories.

The OP you posted doesn't have any facts, it's just an opinion. An opinion boosted by a guy that hates Obama and Israelis.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:42 PM
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31. It is an excellent article. K&R. Thanks for posting.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:01 PM
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17. surprising how many will fall for trollish posts that disparage the President
if they get it from a left wing site.

They must run a school for it somewhere.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:02 PM
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18. I mean, this guy accuses Obama of SUPRESSING the AA vote!!
He also argued in the early part of this year, before Obama even took office, that Obama would take the United States to war in Somalia.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:12 PM
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23. Well either the President wants to reinstate slavery or get reparations for slavery


It doesn't matter with the dellusional self absorbed. The details are irrelevent but if they can get progressives divided and fighting against themselves their mission has succeeded.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:45 AM
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8. I support a primary challenge to Obama in '12. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:57 AM
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14. And, when President Obama is the candidate
we won't have people like you on this board talkin' shit. Yay.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:59 AM
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15. Three years is several lifetimes in politics n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:05 PM
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21. I bet on President Obama..not some scared little
anonymous posters. Chickenlittles.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:15 PM
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24. You have more faith than I
My experience has shown politicians are not to be trusted.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:25 PM
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28. Yeah, I can tell..
And, my experience is to support someone who I have confidence in.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:48 PM
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40. I have no confidence in anybody but myself
There's a reason the term is CONfidence man.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:46 PM
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33. Funny!!!
You state politicians are not to be trusted yet you fully support a challenger to Obama? Why? Do you think he/she will suddenly be a politician to be trusted?

To you and the rest of those who are ready to run Obama out of the White House after only 8 months and say good luck. But if it happens then you need not run your whiney fucking mouths when Palin, Jindahl or any other right winger gets in because it will be YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU who helped put the Republican puke into office.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:47 PM
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39. Ridiculous assertions
I don;'t trust a challenger. I support a challenge because it keeps the politician at least somehwat honest.

EVERY LAST POLITICIAN should have a primary challenge.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 11:59 AM
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16. He told us to keep him honest and push him. That is what I do.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:04 PM
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20. Who's going to keep you
honest.. With your little shithole failpusher pisser internet trash.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:07 PM
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22. If you have something of substance to converse about related
to the actual article, I will talk with you. until then...have a good day.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:48 PM
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35. Posting bullshit
like the article you posted is not pushing and keeping him honest. If anything, it's you being dishonest and pushing dishonest bullshit.

How anyone can read that fucking article and claim theres anything good in it is beyond me. It's a fucking hit piece. Period, end of story.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:04 PM
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19. I do not.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:17 PM
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25. Ain't the democratic process grand?
:evilgrin:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:19 PM
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26. For the most part it is.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:25 PM
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27. Primaries keep politicians as honest as can be under our system n/t
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:34 PM
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29. somewhat. But too much money is involved for most.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:38 PM
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30. I remember the Blue Dogs were against doing Healh Insurance
Reform from the beginning. As I recall hearing a report indicating
the Blue Dogs did not like the timing. One argument was the Recession
should prevent our doing big spending that Health Care would requires.

Apparently WH did not follow the "puppies wishes". Of course now
who is giving them Indigestion?
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:42 PM
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32. You're kidding right?
A lot of truth in the article? It's just another fucking hit piece on President Obama chock full of bullshit opinions not supported by one single fact yet here you are, posting it as it's something proof positive that Obama is failing.

The bullshit hatred for this man is to be exected by many. But the hatred shown towards him from supposed progressives is just plain bullshit.

Oh well, it's par for the course around here anymore.

It's funny that those of us who defend him against bullshit like this are called worshippers and apologists. But tell me, those who call us those names, what do you call yourselves when you go to any length to find something to berate this man?
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:47 PM
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34. Seems we will have to disagree on the OP.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:49 PM
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36. Of course.
Because I can see it for what it is. You on the other hand have nothing but hatred for all things Obama that you can't wrap your fucking mind around the fact that it's nothing but a hit piece.

Nothing factual in that article at all. Just a bunch of opinions by someone who hates Obama apparently as much as you and many others here on this board do.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:55 PM
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37. You are as bad as the Rove and RW when you say these made up things
about me. Good bye.

"You on the other hand have nothing but hatred for all things Obama that you can't wrap your fucking mind around the fact that it's nothing but a hit piece."
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:06 PM
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38. Made up?
You stated in your op that there was good information in the article and I'm not the only one telling you that the article was nothing but a bullshit piece written by someone who hates Obama.

So please tell me, what did I make up?
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