RBInMaine
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:26 PM
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Letter I Just Sent To The White House: "We need Patton, not Spock." |
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Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 12:31 PM by RBInMaine
Dear Mr. President,
I voted for you, worked locally for your campaign, and support you now. However, as much as I admire efforts toward bipartisanship in policy-making, on some issues it simply is not possible to work with the far-right Republican party we have in office today. Most of them are simply determined to see you and Democrats fail. They want to beat Democrats in 2010 and you in 2012. This is entirely why they are trying to defeat healthcare reform and why they are incessently attacking you and Democrats.
It is time for you to draw a clear line in the sand on healthcare and other issues and take your case clearly to the American people. You and Democrats won the last election. The other side lost. Period. Democrats need to solidy unite and get on offense behind a clear and firm policy message on healthcare and other issues that challenges the other party and the special interests to no end. The Republicans and their allies are the people of "NO," champions of the failed status quo, offer no new ideas, and are of, by, and for the wealthy special interests at the expense of everyone else.
The Republican Party today stands very far to the right on the political spectrum. They walk hand-in-glove with wealthy elites and are invested in the status quo. Their radical base, many of whom reject your very legitimacy as President, are determined to malign and attack you and Democrats at every turn. There is no point in trying to negotiate with these people. Defeating them is what is called for.
Sir, we need "General Patton" right now, not "Mr. Spock." Please take off the gloves, get fire into your belly, and take the fight hard to the very heart of your political opponents just as you did during the campaign. That was excellent politcs. It is called for once again.
Thank you.
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:33 PM
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1. Which is why you could never be a politician. n/t |
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:37 PM
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5. Sure I could. There's a time to compromise, and a time to FIGHT. Ever hear of FDR? Truman? Kennedy? |
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:52 PM
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12. WHAT? Fighting for what is right means you could never be a politician? |
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FDR: "They are unanimous in their hatred for me, and I WELCOME THEIR HATRED". He drew lines in the sand, fought his enemies head on and got himself elected president FOUR times. Pretty successful politician if you ask me.
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Sat Sep-05-09 01:48 PM
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17. sigh.....perhaps a few quotes might help (doubt it). |
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So, let us not be blind to our differences - but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. John F. Kennedy
“If you can't go around it, over it, or through it, you had better negotiate with it” Ashleigh Brilliant
All war represents a failure of diplomacy” Tony Benn
“Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.” Daniele Vare
“A real diplomat is one who can cut his neighbor's throat without having his neighbor notice it.” Trygve Lie
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Sat Sep-05-09 02:10 PM
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19. I stand corrected-let's meet the party of Limbaugh and Beck halfway |
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and of course , in the the spirit of bi-partisanship, consult with them on determining just where halfway is.
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Sat Sep-05-09 02:32 PM
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21. So you think that 'taking the gloves off' with neo-con warmongers is a smart tactic? |
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Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 02:35 PM by gopsucks1
Sun Tzu would disagree.
Those clowns thrive on conflict.
And since when were Beckkk and LimpBalls elected to office?
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Sat Sep-05-09 05:12 PM
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23. No, I said I stand corrected..cowering in front of bullies is always the best strategy |
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if you just try to reason with them, they'll surely stop their evil ways. And once again, you're absolutely right; Beck and Limbaugh obviously have no influence in the republican party. Pardon me for even having suggested such a thing. We just need to provide logical , calm statements of our beliefs and they'll all see the light and agree to do what's best for our country. I feel so foolish for not having seen this...
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Sat Sep-05-09 09:25 PM
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26. And you could never be a spook |
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:35 PM
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Patton could never have played 10,000,000,000,000,000-dimensional chess while turning a really, really really big ship around!
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:39 PM
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6. Health reform is SIMPLE ! Either you are for it or against. Pukes are against it. SIMPLE. PERIOD! |
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:47 PM
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10. I agree, Turning over control of legislation to people who will never vote for it |
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no matter what is as dumb a strategy as one could ever imagine.
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Sat Sep-05-09 01:34 PM
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...your REAL goal is to keep your financiers on Wall Street happy while appearing to want legitimate reform for the suckers back home. Then this strategy is prefect.
BTW: The Health Insurance Industry is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Wall Street Banks which will make another Tax Payer funded Trillion if we get mandated coverage.
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Sat Sep-05-09 01:35 PM
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15. True. Sometimes this whole thing reminds me of the kid who doesn't want to mow the lawn, |
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so he goes out, pulls feebly on the starter cord just once, and then goes back in the house and tells Mom the mower won't start.
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:35 PM
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:37 PM
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4. I'll take Spock over Patton anyday of the week... |
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Patton did not have the power of a Vulcan Mind Meld. Spock would kick Patton's ass.
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:43 PM
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8. There is a time for Spock, and a time for Patton. OK, don't like Patton, how about Truman. I'm |
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Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 12:44 PM by RBInMaine
talking about getting clear and fighting. There is a time to do that. Hillary knows how. BigDog knows how. And Obama and Biden know how. The problem is they aren't ATTACKING. They are deflecting. They are not driving the message ship. IT is driving THEM. That is why they are flailing on healthcare. Cut through the bullshit, frame the fucking message, and get the hell on OFFENSE. That is how you get something like this done. Just ask the Pukes. For all their Pukiness, they don't fuck around with politics. YouTube Truman. He'll teach you how.
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:52 PM
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13. Spock had the nerve pinch too, BUT he'd talk the person to sleep first. THAT is why we need PATTON ! |
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PATTON would know his goal, state it clearly, rally the troops, and roll his tanks straight the hell to it blasting his enemy to shit in the process. THAT is what we need now. A PASSIONATE PATTON not a meandering, boring, convoluted mass of psychobabble and not foolish attempts to appease hateful RePukes.
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Sat Sep-05-09 01:39 PM
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16. Maybe a fusion of the two... |
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A Spock with the type of mindset to say things like "you magnificent bastard!" is someone I could get behind.
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Sat Sep-05-09 01:50 PM
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18. Patton? WTF kind of comparison is that! Generals win wars not policy. n/t |
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Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 01:53 PM by gopsucks1
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:42 PM
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7. very well said....his faith in "bi-partisanship" troubled me from the beginning |
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and has proven to be , if anything, even more counter-productive and self-defeating than even I imagined. These people can not be dealt with as if they were a decent, honorable party that respectfully disagrees with you. Not just the president, but our entire party "leadership" needs to take the gloves off, AND KEEP EM OFF. I of course, understand that most of em never will, because they work for the same paymasters the repubs do. But maybe Pres. Obama, by doing as you, I ,and many others have counseled, may yet be able to somehow rally the troops to forcefully stand up to the fascist lunatics that have taken over the republican party. But time is running very short, and I personally am very very pessimistic at this point that this rallying; this FINALLY standing up forcefully to this extremely dangerous mob that now controls the repubs, is ever going to happen. I hope for the sake of my country, and all of humanity, that I'm wrong.
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:47 PM
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9. Well, Dems need to get back on '08 thinking and get on OFFENSE. Dems aren't as corporate as |
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the Pukes, but too many are too corporate, that is true. There is plenty of time though. Obama needs to LEAD !
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Sat Sep-05-09 12:49 PM
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11. "Obama needs to LEAD !" BRAVO. |
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Sat Sep-05-09 02:27 PM
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20. He's not Spock either |
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Spock would see that single payer health care reform was logical, and that it would be impossible to live long and prosper without it.
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Sat Sep-05-09 04:05 PM
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22. Trouble is Obama is more Spock-like |
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Were any of the Democrats who ran like Patton?
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Sat Sep-05-09 05:16 PM
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24. Become a rethug to defeat rethugs? |
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Sat Sep-05-09 05:27 PM
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25. I don't see President Obama as someone having no fire in the gut. |
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