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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 12:58 PM
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Will Obama "Stand Up" or "Sell Out" on Wednesday?
Thom Hartmann did a similar "straw poll" on Friday. Lets try it here.

If you believe President Obama will STAND UP for a stong public option on Wednesday, REC this post.

If you think he will SELL OUT a strong public option UNREC this post.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:01 PM
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1. Interesting use of the unrec function. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:01 PM
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2. Unrec
Not really, but since we cant see the actual numbers of unrec's I figured this was the only way to vote.

I think an actual poll would have been a better option.

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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:10 PM
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6. I wanted to do a poll, but ...
you have to make a donation to DU in order to use the "poll function." I'd love it if some donor would post this as a poll.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:11 PM
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7. Ah, got it
Im in the same boat!
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:01 PM
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3. He may verbally stand up Wed but his ACTIONS following the speech will tell
the true story.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:02 PM
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4. uh oh the faithful are gonna unrec u to death lol instead of supporting free speech nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:51 PM
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9. You do understand that Free Speech does not apply to a privately owned website, right?
I didn't unrec, but it irritates the hell out of me when people misuse the term.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:52 PM
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12. Let me add to this: Unrec doesn't censor free speech anyway.
It only keeps a topic off the Greatest Page. It doesn't bury it and it doesn't delete it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:25 PM
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14. To some: One who doesn't agree with me = One who doesn't support "free speech".
n/t
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:02 PM
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5. I'll wait to find out what our President says on Wednesday.
No need to get our panties in a bunch til then, is there?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:43 PM
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8. It is going to be for me hard to watch...I will be so heartbroken if
he don't give us something very good... and I know many of us had such hopes for him and until now I thought he was doing pretty good...over this health bill he seems weak...I sure want to hear the speech like he gave us when he was running for president..
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:52 PM
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:06 PM
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13. LOL, you couldn't be more wrong!
I'm a 50 year old, progressive, Democratic precinct captain. My friends are all laughing at the idea that someone would consider me to be a right-wing anything!!

What I am NOT is an Obama-sycophant. I promised all of my conservative friends (yes, I do have some) that when Obama was WRONG, I would be the first one to say so.

Any health care "reform" that does NOT contain a strong, universal, comprehensive, public option will be a SELL OUT to the health insurance industry.

In the campaign, candidate Obama promised to STAND UP against the big corporate interests, including the health insurance industry. If President Obama SELLS OUT on that promise, you are damned right that I am going to call him on it!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:28 PM
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15. Nevermind.
Edited on Sat Sep-05-09 02:44 PM by jefferson_dem
:hi:
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 01:52 PM
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11. you do realize this is being unrecced because it is a crappy thread
but nice attempt at making your obviously held opinion seem validated.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:29 PM
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16. LOL! The OP'er must think he's clever or something. Another fuckwit fail attempt.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:41 PM
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19. You do realize you and no one else knows why this thread is being unrecced,
don't you?
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:53 PM
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22. sure we do
spend some time here, and you will too
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:37 PM
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17. This is effing DU
There is a Democratic President.

This is why you get unrec.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:41 PM
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18. Neither.
He'll sell cars.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 02:52 PM
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20. At this point, I don't think even Barack Obama knows the answer. n/t
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:47 PM
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21. Best way forward don't believe anything till we see it and give the best support we can to the bill.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 04:16 PM
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23. He has already sold out a lot.
What we are fighting for now is a tiny shred of decency in the final legislation.

True national health care iwill be a long way off no matter what happens.

That said, I expect him to waffle and support the Snowe "trigger" compromise, which will be the final straw so far as I am concerned.

I hope I am wrong.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 09:56 PM
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24. I'm still hoping he'll stand up, but I don't expect it.
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TentRevival Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:02 PM
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25. Oh I BELIEVEEEEEE i BELIEEEEEEEVE!!!!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:04 PM
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26. I've already given my answer to your question months ago.
June 29th: "National HealthCare Co-opted By A Co-Op: That's The Rug You Feel Being Pulled From Under Your Feet." http://journals.democraticunderground.com/David%20Zephyr/38

August 16th: "Spit Out the Kool-Aid: The Public Option Was Never A Real Option: It Was A Negotiation Tactic" http://journals.democraticunderground.com/David%20Zephyr/42
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