As a white American....I'm really disgusted by this country...

[HardWorkingDem]

So far, a once in a lifetime inspirational figure is being critiqued for wanting to speak to America's school children. What is wrong with this picture? What is wrong with these bizarre conservative whites that seem to object to anything this man does?

Have they not looked at their own white children and seen the excitement in their eyes when it comes to President Obama? The other day, when this man was on television, our three year old girl pointed at the television in excitement and declared, "Obama, Obama."

Is their racism, fear, prejudice this deep?

And just a few minutes ago I read online where Obama is going to stress the topics of stay in school and personal responsibility.

Is this not what these people have been wanting to hear from black America for decades?

I am so disgusted over all the recent reaction to our first black president. How can any American not be worried about people showing up at presidential events with guns? Black, white, democrat, republican, conservative or liberal. How can any American not be disgusted over the comments and attitudes we have heard from these town hall meetings?


So sad...

[mth44sc]

1. My question is

why anyone takes them seriously. Hello CNN are you there?

[tularetom]

2. Yup, we are no longer the "home of the brave"

And consequently we will not be the "land of the free" much longer.

[tomm2thumbs]

16. I finally saw what your picture was!

sorry to be off topic, but the picture in your profile always reminded me of a couple stuffed or puppet monkeys with an arm hugging each other.

But It's CATS! (omg, I'm a complete dolt but have no qualms about saying so)

[rhett o rick]

54. Thanks man. I didnt see it until you said it. nt

[shellgame26]

62. OMG

You're right! Those are cats! Cool pic.

[Joe Bacon]

53. We DON'T have a National Will anymore!

When I was a kid, I remember when we had a national WILL. But, when the New Right came into power in 1978, they replaced a national WILL with a national WON'T.

We WON'T look out for a common interest.
We WON'T lift a finger to help anyone else
We WON'T work together for common good
We WON'T make a better world because TV Preachers have sold us the rapture.
We WON'T believe things can get better because churches tell us it doesn't matter.
We WON'T unionize because everyone's looking for the cheese that moved away.
We WON'T work for better days, because the corporate press tells us the 50s were the best time we ever had.

[Cleita]

3. The racism is no longer hidden. It's up there for the whole

world to see, look at and laugh at. It's up there for us to be very ashamed of.

[Lilyeye]

17. It sure isn't, but you will find people right here on DU that say otherwise.

[Fire1sKid]

68. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:toast:

[jasi2006]

4. It is a sad, sad reality about many of the people in this country.

They would rather cut off their own noses to bleed on their chins than support a black man as President. It is pure and simple racism. That is all. It is cloaked in patriotism, anti-communism, anti-terrorism, anti-taxes, pro-life, anti-big-government, anti-socialism, defense of states rights, anti-entitlement, anti-reform of anything. You and I both have a right to be ashamed. But more importantly, we need to be activists or else live in fear. These racists anti-reformers have the wealth of the powerful behind them and the powerful own and control the media, the banks, and most all of the systems that control our lives, including the foreign policies that now have us embroiled in unending wars supported by a military-industrial-drug-complex supported by renegade agents throughout the intel community. If I sound alarmist, I am. And I believe more people should be.

[dotymed]

72. IF PRESIDENT OBAMA

Would just ask us to "rise up" in support of good
policies, and he would be there for us, it would be
different.Instead, we get appeasement from the man with
"change we can believe in." It would take one
statement to have a majority mobilized in a peaceful show of
support. It would be our pleasure to have a President who had
our backs. We could get so much accomplished. But that
possibility has has become pretty slim, especially when he
surrounds himself with people like Rahm and lets people like
Van go.

[johnaries]

5. I think you hit it. "Have they not looked at their own white children ..

..and seen the excitement in their eyes when it comes to President Obama?"

I'd say they have, and that's what scares them the most. That their children won't be the racists that they are. That their children might actually look up to *gasp* a black person.

As another white person, I can't tell you how many "but I'm not a racist" racists I have run into lately.

[ClayZ]

11. It is GOD AWFUL!

SHAME on these people. Teaching hate and fear.

This has got to be stopped somehow! Go on any Craigslist and click on Politics or Rants. These people are organized and spewing hate and fear all over the place.

It is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I was horrified for 8 years with bu$h as a president.
I am now more horrified of these idiots. It is like Sarah Palin triggered some kind of meltdown.

They have white supremacy websites and they all have their fingers pointed at liberals as ENEMIES!



I am spending way to much time being horrified and angry at them!

The whole world is watching.

[Lifelong Protester]

70. How is this latest flap playing over the pond? I had not thought

of that until I saw your post. They must really shake their heads at us over here.

And I'm with the group that believes if the shouters and teabaggers aren't beginning their 'quests for "their" America' because they are inherently racist, you can be sure someone is helping them towards that with a well-place "birther document" or some other 'suggested' piece of "Hey, he ain't like US" business.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself well, but I guess I am trying to say that the racist wing of the wing nuts is making all of this disagreement worse.

[billh58]

57. And the shame

of it, is that they really believe that they are NOT racists.

[Hamlette]

6. I'm disgusted by "the Greatest Generation" saying "I've got mine, fuck you" on health care.

And like you, this school thing is breath takingly awful. Bad enough that some racist parents complain but the number of schools that have capitulated and the number of GOP leaders who agree it is wrong for Obama to talk when that had NO problem with Bush I and II or Reagan doing it. They are feeding a very dangerous beast.

[Politics_Guy25]

8. STRONG K and R

BRAVO!!!

[EmilyAnne]

12. Don't forget that most of these people really aren't the "Greatest Generation."

Aside from the handful of brave patriots who lied about their ages to serve during WWII, the absolute youngest of the Greatest Generation would be turning 82 this year.
That is to say, someone who served in 1945 at the age of 17 would be turning 82.
I don't think those are 80-90 year old people donning stupid signs and screaming at the Town Hall meetings.

The idiots you are referring to are more likely of the generation that was too old to fight in Vietnam and too young for WWII.
Maybe, just maybe, some of the oldest ones showing up to spew their "I've got mine, fuck you" bull shit are Korean War vets.

[intheflow]

44. Sadly, I think it's mostly boomers who are teabagging.

These are the same boomers who gave us the dotcom bubble and the housing bubbles and, yes, even Clinton and his NAFTA bullshit. If (and it's a big "if") they marched against Vietnam, they grew into Blue Dog Democrats at best and full-blown repukes when faced with the crappy economy of the 1970's.

[depakid]

13. The Greatest Generation has for the most part, passed away

Most of the idiots who you see drooling at the cerebrum were too young to fight in WWII or Korea- and too old for Vietnam.

[jhrobbins]

76. Actually, I don't think it is the generation you posit-I think it is the Boomers-

raised by those men and women of the WWII generation to believe that they should have the things that their parents (many from the Great Depression era) did not have. I knew some Korean War generation types when I was very young and they didn't strike me as the whiners of the Boomer generation that felt they were 'entitled'. Their parents thought they were doing them a favor by giving them whatever they were able.

[otohara]

27. On Social Security Also

they've been whining about not getting a raise for the next two years....doesn't matter that this country is in deep doo doo - broke.

[espiral]

37. As usual, blame the elderly

The generation that fought the war is not the problem.

Racism, rural poverty and lack of rudimentary health and educational systems are, in and of themselves, the problem.

[gtar100]

82. In think these are the children of the "Greatest Generation".

This illusion of a "Greatest Generation" has got to stop. Far too many of them were real pricks to the kids during the 1960's and as far as I can tell many of their kids didn't turn out so well, acting like they own the world and don't have to care about anybody but themselves.

The Greatest Generation is a term coined by journalist Tom Brokaw to describe the generation of Americans who grew up during the deprivation of the Great Depression, and then went on to fight in World War II, as well as those whose productivity within the war's home front made a decisive material contribution to the war effort. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Generation

It was a trying time but their fortitude is a testament to the human spirit. It's not unique to Americans only.

[fadedrose]

7. Maybe it's inbreeding

Since nobody is good enough for these "conservatives."

[MadMaddie]

9. HardWorkingDem I know that it is sad but I think in the long run

it will be a catharsis for this country. For far too long this country has not addressed the issue of race and dealt with it in an adult fashion. We have history books that omit minority and women who have had huge impacts on this country and instead the focus is right leaning views of history.

Black America is not surprised by this (I can't speak for all blacks) but I know many who agree with me, in fact we expected this. What you are seeing and experiencing first hand is what I call the extreme expectations many blacks and women have to achieve to gain respect and acknowledgement of successes.

Wait...but there's more...as you have seen with President Obama the hate mongers cannot accept that he earned his degrees and successes through hard work because that does not fit with their view of the lazy negro. (Yea, I said it)!! Because it defeats their arugment.

They never say that about themselves, The * family is a perfect example, none of that family earned anything on their own, pappy paved the way for them.

The Republican congress cannot put the jenie back in the bottle now, it's out for the world to see in it's raw and ugly form. It is clear now to those who are paying attention that anything that they do is suspect and has a racist and class overtone to it. For the talking heads who lie everyday, what they are doing is unsustainable and it will come to a tipping point and they will be either out of a job or in jail for inciting terrorism.

All shall come to pass....
So I say to you and others don't be too discouraged, it will be rough but we will eventually cleanse ourselves of the scourage that is the terrorist right wing.

[dionysus]

10. hey there. wonderful post :)

:thumbsup:
on edit, and the OP as well. K&R

[MadMaddie]

47. Thanks Dionysus!!

:hi:

[NOLALady]

84. I do not know any Blacks who are surprised.

In fact, I know quite a few who predicted this would happen. They believe it will get much worse before it gets better.

[Voltaire]

94. I would be one such black

I would be surprised at a move to impeach on specious grounds and I would not be surprised at multiple assassination attempts. I expect no better from racist America and she seldom disappoints.

[Bluerthanblue]

89. wise and hopeful words MadMadie- cancer that is not

exposed, or that is denied only grows and destroys.

It's painful to treat disease, but it's the way to true health.


:hi:

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. What part of kids staying in school do you disagree with it?

You wouldn't be disagreeing with it if a white guy was saying it.

[Lilyeye]

19. Where in the hell did ANYONE say people had to love Obama because his black?

[Justitia]

20. What policies? "Get good grades"? Sounds like YOU need to get a GRIP

on reality.

The crazy people are CRYING on teevee because a black man is going to tell their kids to work hard in school.

Yeah, sure, it's his "policy" they disagree with, bwahahaha :crazy:

[EmilyAnne]

21. The OP was talking about people who HATE Obama because he is black. Policy differences, my ass. nt

[uponit7771]

23. Parents didn't do the same with a white rep or dem presidents, what is one left to think?

[butterfly77]

24. We don't

Have to love any president and it is about race in a lot of cases,in a few not. What can we chalk this up to is that he is a Dem and some would go against him for that, but for many they can't see anything but color and now they are working to on all blacks in his admin too.

My advice to you is also to get a GRIP! Who is in the hell do you think you are talking too! "GET OVER THIS RACE THING"! WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THAT SUPPOSE TO MEAN!

Seems as though everyone who has some type of disagreement with our pres uses their little buzzwords like Radical as though anyone black who differs from their stereotypes are Radical.

Wake up, because the majority of the country is Radical. If they believe in fairness and justice for all as most America does, as well as our President.

[Diamonique]

25. I call B.S. on that one.

Most of this stupidity *is* about race... plain and simple.

Sure some disagree on policy. But that's not why they're complaining about the speech. That's not why they "want their country back", etc.

[quiet.american]

28. Gotta give it to you, that's the most heartfelt piece of ignorant B.S. I've read in some time. nt

[tranche]

29. Thanks for posting what you really believe.

[Uzybone]

30. how much racism can DU tolerate, why is this person not served yet?

[hileeopnyn8d]

59. It isn't the first time

from this person either.

[firedupdem]

63. Again, post deleted but still not ts'd. What does it take? nt

[HardWorkingDem]

31. Ohhhh.....right, Truthiness Inspector,. ....it's not........

Sure, you keep on believing that part about it's not all about race. Certainly, I'd agree that it is all not about race, but I think a good part of it is about race. Especially at a subconscious level.

The male, white conservatives are going unreasonably bat shit over this man. Why is that?

Let's look at the reaction to the school speech alone. Look at the loaded words being used and in such a manner to fly under the radar.

Much of the right wing, male, white conservative reaction to this man also seems to be at a more nativistic level, too. It's like they are sensing their eventual downfall and are biting to hold on to whatever they can.

But you keep on believing it's just about "policies"....

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. I have yet to see anyone on the right say they didn't want our BLACK President to speak to the kids.

I've seen just about everyone on the left who is pissed off about it mention race though. In fact, I can't remember whether I've seen a post here on DU that didn't mention racism, inbreeding, rednecks, hillbillies, crackers, or anything else one can call white people in reference to any kind of disagreement one might have with The President of the United States addressing children from 4 to 18 years old.

Isn't that strange? WE'RE the ones screaming racist epithets, and calling THEM racists.

[quiet.american]

35. I've seen very few DU posts on this subject screaming racist epithets.

We've seen clip after clip of these folks who are so upset about the president's speech holding racist signs, saying racist things, and circulating racist emails.

This is not about policy disagreements and it never has been.

It's such an odd statement: "...in reference to any kind of disagreement one might have with The President of the United States addressing children from 4 to 18 years old."

What is to fear about that? Outside of fears generated by delusion or racism, that is.

[msallied]

36. Reality Check: They ARE racists.

And you are ignorant if you don't think that shit like this, the "birther" nonsense, and every attempt to frame the President as "not one of us" (Muslim, socialist, etc) is related to the fact that he's "colored."

[SemiCharmedQuark]

40. No there aren't.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=258&topic_id=5893&mesg_id=5893

It's all policy difference, baby!

[HardWorkingDem]

42. Do you really think anyone would say such a thing?

Of course these white male conservatives are not going to say they don't want a "black" person addressing the nation's school children. Yes, these people are pretty disgusting, but they aren't necessarily stupid.

But answer this question: where were these white conservatives when George Bush and Ronald Reagan were doing the same thing?

On top of that, there is plenty evidence of latent racism at many of these public functions. This has went on from the campaigns, to the health care town halls to now.

We just have a problem calling things what they are from time to time.

[Lilyeye]

50. Right...because they would really say this out in the open.

Instead they send racist e-mails out that show how they really feel in the comfort of their own circles and use their little key words to cover up what they really want to say. And I have yet to see anyone being called a cracker. Now I have seen people called hillbillies and rednecks in the past, but not in the threads about the speech. I've never condoned any of that. I have to say the defense of these scumbags I've seen here at DU from some is disturbing. I can't believe this is a democratic website sometimes.

[Hansel]

34. Wow, how blatantly rude can one post be? nt

[SemiCharmedQuark]

38. Yes. People joke that Air Force One's Number is N166ER because they disagree with his policies!

They call him a spook, suggest that he loves watermelon and fried chicken and accuse him of being born in Kenya because they disagree with his policies!

[MadMaddie]

46. It is about race you are misguided if you think it is anything but race!

The threats to President Obama have increased 300% in 8 months that's not because of his policies or where he wants to take this country.

I am sure you will say that MLK wasn't assassinated for being black it was just his policies.....whatever. Oh yea, I guess the Holocaust museum shooter wasn't their about race either....

Beck, O'Leilly, Limballs all of them have been speaking subtly about race....it's kind of hard to miss. They know exactly what they are doing and they are being paid to do it.

If you want to pretend that race is not an issue in this country feel free to do so, after all it is a free country.

[AsahinaKimi]

61. I totally agree ...

btw, thats the first I have seen that about Air Force One's plane number..thats despicable.
Its been about race back since he ran for office..

REMEMBER THIS IDIOT?

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

49. This isn't about race? Are you sure?

"I really believe Obama hates white people" -- Glen Beck

I haven't seen a black face yet at the teabagger's balls I've been to, but I had the "N" word so much I thought I was in Mississippi circa 1964.
I haven't seen a parent of color yet who has said "I'm keeping my kid out of school during Obama's speech"
I haven't seen any commentator of color agree or defend the Obama=Hitler thing.
Funny how if a white politician supports progressive policy it is "liberal"
Yet a progressive politician of color is a "dangerous radical" or a "socialist"

"I want My America back!" Every face I've seen yell that is a white one, and I know exactly what that statement means.

The anti-Obama feeling we are seeing isn't about race? Are you sure?

[firedupdem]

60. Why this palin/bush loving bigot is still here is beyond me. n/t

[Lilyeye]

73. I wonder the same after that "you're a racist if you don't agree with black people" thread

[firedupdem]

74. Take a look through this one...this person shouldn't be posting here..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8553414

[Triana]

15. I join you in that disgust. n/t

[slackmaster]

22. One person's inspirational figure is another person's demagogue

And the objective truth, if such a thing exists, lies somewhere between the two extremes.

[Honeycombe8]

26. As a white person, I'm disgusted and dismayed over it all, too. I don't think it's ALL racism.

I really do think a big part of it is that the country is so divided, and the righters have developed a lot of hatred for so-called liberals, that they are getting themselves more and more worked up over Obama's successes.

Obama HAS been more successful than any other recent President.

The ins. cos. have formed the town hall yelling matches, so there's that. That's not racism.

Then there's the health care issue..that it touches every one of us in a personal way, so EVERYONE is concerned.

Then there's the rise of TALK RADIO. Limpballs is almost singlehandedly running the show on the right, and he's all about hate. There IS some racism involved in that, but Limpballs would be the way he is, even if Obama were 100% white.

Still, there does seem to be an underlying racism thing for some people on the right. I can recognize it, being from the deep south, even when it's not spoken. They are afraid. They are very afraid.

It IS disgusting. But...dare I steal this line? It can be overcome. It 's an attitude that lingers from decades past, and when those old fogies pass on, those attitudes will pass with them.

[Phx_Dem]

32. So am I. Disgusted and ashamed of the level of hatred and ignorance. n/t

[polichick]

39. K&R

[varelse]

41. Only about 30% of this country is earning this disgust

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8629729&mesg_id=8629729

It's sad, I know but at least they're not a majority any more. I doubt the white racists will ever regain that footing.

The DU apologists, on the other hand, I find truly :puke: making

[intheflow]

43. "Is this not what these people have been wanting to hear from black America for decades?"

No, these people have never wanted to hear what black America has to say. They only want black America to hear what white Americans say they should do. The intent was never to get blacks involved with thinking or -- horrors! -- engaged in civic discussion. If white America wanted that, they would actually fund low-income schools at sustainable levels.

[Doctor_J]

45. I think racism is only a tiny part

It would have been nearly the same for Hillary. Maybe sh would have fought back more strongly than he has, but the attacks would have been very similar, including gun nuts at meetings.

Edit: The Hate Radio terrorist are using racism to that segment on board, but they'd be waging the same sort of war against Hillary.

[freddie mertz]

48. Rec'd. And I and many others certainly share your disgust.

It is racism (and political hate-mongering that seeks to foster and exploit racism) that is behind all this.

This is still a very sick, very ignorant nation in many respects.

[robcon]

51. I'm not at all disgusted with this country.

I'm very proud of this country.

[janx]

52. So am I !

:hi:

[Critters2]

55. I was proud of this country on November 4. Now, not so much. nt

[rhett o rick]

56. Seriously, what exactly about this country are you proud? I am serious. I can't think of much. nt

[robcon]

93. If you can't think of anything, I think you are uneducated. Not stupid, just uneducated.

Let me educate you on a few things:

Political freedom
The most charitable people on earth (greatest % of income)
affluence
importance of the U.S. on the world stage
beacon of freedom for most of the world
Press freedom
best universities in the world
etc.

[Bluerthanblue]

88. what about the people who make up this country? do you

say the same?

Are you "not at all disgusted" with the behaviour of some of us?

[DailyGrind51]

58. I share your disgust. I have nothing in common with these "fly over" rubes!

[MellowDem]

64. It's the 30 percenters only...

and they are not "America".

[Colobo]

65. They are fighting hard against progress. Still, time is against them.

They are a dying breed- don't let them fool you.

[harmonicon]

66. "Is their racism, fear, prejudice this deep?" Yes. nt

[Fire1sKid]

67. wow you figured that out all by yourself?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[graywarrior]

69. I knew it was deep, but I was never this afraid and repulsed by it before.

It's overwhelming and it stinks to high heaven.

[Juche]

71. Not all white people are bad

Yes, 20% of this country is made up of braindead, white wingnuts. Those are the people wanting to take their kids out of school (polls show about 20% want to keep their kids home). They are also the same 20% that approved of Bush no matter how bad he fucked up the country. Every country has 20% of stupid, protofascists who are undemocratic.

However there are 2 categories of great white people.

White liberals
White union members

Think about it. About 15% of the electorate is white liberals. And they are the biggest fighters for progressive causes (Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Howard Dean, Ed Schulz, Mike Papantonio, RFK jr, Thom Hartmann, Al Franken, Michael Moore, etc). They are also many members of the progressive caucus fighting for the public option.

White union members are also a huge boom to this country, fighting for working people and higher wages for the middle class.


I would assume white union members who support progressive causes, combined with white liberals make up about 20% of the country.

Anyway, as a white person I wanted to throw that out. There are undemocratic, bigoted white people. And there are white liberals and white union members.

Doesn't justify the bad behavior of the wingnuts, but I wanted to make the distinction.

[HardWorkingDem]

83. Here is what really, really bothers me and concerns me....

This is not a ramble and I promise, there is a point, please bear with me.....to me, it tells a much larger story that is sort of being ignored.

We all know that American has a fascination with guns. And of all people in the media and punditry, the most consistently correct person I have heard about Obama, guns, race and America has been Chris Matthews.

He has rightly so kept pointing out that we have a terrible history when it comes to guns, assassinations and presidents.

So what happens? Not a trickle here and there, but a bunch of people have been showing up with firearms at Presidential events. Now, just why the hell is not ALL of America bothered by this? Why is there no overwhelmingly huge outrage over this behavior? To me, each and ever single American (except for the legitimately mentally ill and disabled) should be outraged over these incidents.


And not to turn this into a Republican vs Democrat thing, does anyone out there really think that if this had happened to Bush that the right would have stood for it?

Recall, shortly after Bush was elected, The Progressive ran a story about a college student who was paid a visit by the Secret Service because of an anti-death penalty poster depicting Bush in a noose.

[Juche]

90. I know

The rose colored glasses have come off and we are seeing the most undemocratic, authoritarian 20-25% of the american public in action. Nobody is apologizing for the 400% spike in death threats against the president, nobody is trying to calm the mob down and many people are inflaming the mob.

It is only a time before this extends to assassination or assassination attempts against Obama and other dem and liberal leaders. I agree, that the other 75% of the country should be outraged. But I'm guessing most of them are paying too little attention to see what is really going on.

[Billsmile]

75. Should't Obama Also Be Talking To Administrators?

Seems to me that teaching in the USA needs a rethink and teaching principles need to move beyond reward/punishment which only works fpr 2/3 of the population.

Cater the teaching system one that mirrors the natural human population and our inherent different ways of advancing our natural intellects.

Obama needs to question the system itself.

[Alcibiades]

77. He does

Read one of his books.

[Alcibiades]

78. I agree that they are racist

But they also would treat any Democrat this way. They have drunk the cool-aid of Republicanism. Racism was part and parcel of the rise of the Republican Party since the inception of the "southern strategy," so it is hard to disentangle the two.

These are the George Wallace people, and their kids, but they are all Republicans now.

[treestar]

91. To some extent they might treat a white Dem President saying the same things

with some disgusting behavior. But it wouldn't go quite so far. True they'd be saying that he was trying to indoctrinate the children. But they wouldn't be calling the schools and threatening to keep the kids home. So I think that racism is kicking in here.

[Name removed]

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[JanusAscending]

80. One slice of pizza please!

Get lost freeper! My radar just went off! Go join #14 in the graveyard!

[windoe]

81. I am so disgusted.

It is so hard to be hopeful when there is so much hate. I always knew there were racist people like this, but they never were this aggressive or inspired to act openly in such an insane way. Honestly I find it deeply disturbing, my mind wants to use logic and reason to banish the ignorance, yet my heart knows that it runs much deeper than the mind.

As sad as this is, I find comfort to come here with all of you.

[NOLALady]

85. They were this aggressive and openly insane

towards the first graders who integrated the public schools of New Orleans.

When I watch the town hall meetings, I flash back to those women who were yelling and screaming at those little girls. That was my first glimpse at pure hatred based on race. It was directed at children for heaven's sake!

[NOLALady]

86. No.

"Is this not what these people have been wanting to hear from black America for decades?" No it is not.

These people are not the least bit interested in an educated black America. First it was illegal to educate blacks. Then blacks were relegated to segregated sub schools. Thank heavens for the black teachers because they did a fantastic job with the little they had to work with.

Now the racists can see that their attempts to keep the minority population ignorant and uneducated is failing. An educated black person is the stuff of nightmares for those people.

[Bluerthanblue]

87. some people have become blinded by hate and anger-

and they are locked into that mindset.

I believe bush really stoked the fires of hatred among many Americans,- it's become a us vs. them, your're either with us or your're with the enemy mentality-

Sadly, even among us here at DU- sometimes.

I'm ashamed of the way many "americans" are behaving- and wish there were some way to open their eyes- and minds- ... and hearts.

:shrug:

[treestar]

92. Not disgusted by the country; it did elect a black President after all

But by these wingnuts and the media, yes.

[Beacool]

95. And you don't think they would have the same reaction if instead of Obama

the president was Edwards or Hillary????

Please, they would be as adamantly opposed to ANY Democratic president "indoctrinating" their precious children.

:(

[HardWorkingDem]

96. No, I don't think they would....

While I don't believe race is the only thing here, I do think it is at the least a serious latent issue that must be examined.

As I've pointed out numerous times here and other places: where is the national outrage, worry or criticism about people showing up at these rallies with firearms? Especially with the history of our country when it comes to political assassinations?

Certainly, the most serious of far righters would be making comments, but there seems to be an increased level and it has to be asked, why?

Sadly, the more of this that goes on, the more I fear there is an underlying theme and it's not good.