There is a reason we won the election of 2008

[Peacetrain]

We do not give up, or fall down when the going gets tough.

:dem::dem::dem::dem::dem:

[abq e streeter]

1. we got very lucky too

The repubs ran a campaign of a level of ineptitude, incompetence and confusion that was mind-boggling, still were in a statistical dead heat with Obama if not not slightly ahead until the economy tanked ,they picked a vice presidential candidate who made George Bush look like an intellectual titan, and STILL got 57 million votes.

[GivePeaceAchance]

4. No such thing as luck is my belief we make our own destiny, same as bad luck if ...

a person believes Friday the 13th will be a bad day, with nervousness and anxiousness it will be self fulfilling prophecy. So belief in what we can do is everything, keep folks inspired.

[CrispyQ]

5. Agreed.

If the economy had tanked after the election, it's very likely we would have President McCain. Too many on this site are certain the repubs are in a death throes & don't stand a chance of taking the White House in 2012. I don't share their confidence. The economy is going to be the key issue in 2012, & Main St. doesn't judge the economy by how high the DJIA is.

[depakid]

7. Yep- and that's a reality check that more folks need to wrap their minds around

[Cha]

10. Yeah, it was The Perfect Storm for someone like

President Obama to come along because there was no fucking way the Power was going to give it up.

[Cha]

9. The repukes always have the corporatemediawhores

watching their backs but yeah, the fuckers are stupid.

However, President Obama beat Hillary, too.

And, as for your "57 million voters" for mcpalin..what can I say about the fucking stupid brainwashed assholes in this country that hasn't been said before?

[customerserviceguy]

2. Don't make too much of that victory

It wasn't so much that mushy middle Americans liked Barack Obama, it's that they were more distrustful of a third Bush term with McLame. If Bush had been able to pull us out of Iraq and Afghanistan completely, or the economy had not visibly tanked just before the election (the former may have led to the latter), we'd be fighting a speech to schoolkids from President John McCain.

The body bags coming back from that part of the world, plus the rising debts due to massive spending were what sunk the Rethugs, not Terri Schiavo or even Hurricane Katrina. Our President faces his own Katrina this fall with swine flu, and he has his own deficit problems with having to spend us out of recession. If he fails to get us out of Afghanistan, it will be a replay of the Lyndon B. Johnson presidency.

[GivePeaceAchance]

6. I think it discredits a lot of hard work that volunteers put into the campaign to call it luck alone

there were folks even on our side we had to bring around and we did that by staying focused on the issues, than on the GOP circus. The carnival will always be in town as long as the GOP are here but we don't have to get on their rides if our will is strong enough. In the GE President Obama couldn't carry the burden alone and there's little change now. Nothing will ever happen by magic or luck just plain determination and courage of conviction.

[abq e streeter]

8. Of course it wasn't luck alone, which is why if you'll notice, I said "lucky too"

edit....just noticed you were replying to someone else and not claiming I had said "luck alone" . I stand by this post , but apologize for inferring that you said that it was I who claimed it was luck "alone".....We also had lots of hard working volunteers for Kerry, Gore, McGovern,Mondale,Stevenson, Dukakis ( showing my age here)...wasn't enough to win ( at least by Diebold standards in Gore and Kerry's cases), and we were fortunate this time to have a perfect storm of things going wrong for the repubs that our hard work did finally put us over the top. And again, even with the travesty the republican ticket and campaign had become, they still got 57 million votes. We worked hard, and also got very very lucky.

[GivePeaceAchance]

13. Yeah, I think I did reply to the wrong post, my bad.

[customerserviceguy]

12. It's not luck, but there were some fortuitous circumstances

The Obama-Hillary battle ended with a good result, the Rethugs' "Operation Chaos" was ineffective. That's where the volunteers came in, they took a fractured Democratic Party and brought it all together under one banner. The Repukes couldn't get over their earlier fighting over a candidate, the Mittbots didn't like the Hucksterbee fundies who didn't like the Giuliani country-clubbers, and enough of them did not unite behind a man they really didn't like at the beginning of the campaign season.

The folks in the mushy middle really don't care about issues, if they were paying attention, they wouldn't be in the middle. There are people who spend practically zero time thinking about major political issues, they make up their mind about who to vote for the weekend before the election. This last time around, Barack Obama was the unquavering voice of reason, and really had no significant track record to make them uneasy. Attempting to tie him to William Ayers was just seen as a desperate tactic that was ultimately futile.

But, we have gone from Barack Obama, the candidate to Barack Obama, the head of the executive branch of US government. There are way more opportunities to scare people with how you govern, versus what the opposition says you might do.

[Cha]

11. It was a miracle that we won but that miracle

involved a lot of hard work by millions of people that the corporatemediawhores don't want to be seen or heard.

[GivePeaceAchance]

3. Exactly, abandoning all hope this early in the game never could win a super bowl or a poltical...

struggle even. We've got a long way to go and we have to be ready to take it on to the last seconds of the game. Now some would prefer it not to be a game but that's the reality of politics even in nations where the discourse has less passionate rhetoric. In democracy there is still a game to contend with, with money influence or not which the money influence will eventually be overcome also because it has to.

[Pirate Smile]

14. Oh, FFS, the negativity gushing forth even on a positive OP like this is incredible.

Debbie Downer, pessimism and Chicken Little freak outs are all the rage.

I knew this weekend was going to be like this but, it is still ridiculous when the WH has actually expressed MORE support for the PO over the weekend.

People want to stop mid-battle and declare a loss.

The politicians actually seem to have a much better perspective and the Activists seem to be hysterical.

I wish people would just chill the f#$k out.

If you can't deal with watching the sausage get made, don't watch!

[rhett o rick]

15. We'll see. I hope you are right. But I've seen enough of life to be very skeptical. The tyrants

gave up too easy. They had systems in place to completely take over. Why didnt they?

[Jennicut]

16. Bordering on wanting to throw themselves off a ledge

Too depressing for me. I never give up hope until there is nothing left to hope with.
I am pepping myself up for Wednesday! And the Rethugs can go to hell.