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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:09 PM Original message |
Van Jones Exit Isn't Right-Wing Win, It's an Obama Surrender |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. This capitulation is another bad bad sign. nt |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You give in to bullies, they just keep coming back. nt |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. knr. so many capituations on important issues. I still have not |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. >>aren't there any people or policy positions that Obama stands firm on? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Obama is firmly opposed to prosecuting criminals from Bush era |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. He's very firm on keeping GLBT Americans in a state of second class citizenship. |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Oops, my bad. You are absolutely correct, and I should have thought of that myself. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Agreed. It reinforces the "Democrats are wimps" meme. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. And Rumsfeld took how long to step down? |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. I didnt realize the Republicans still control the White House. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. When we elect a Democrat to the White House |
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msans (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. don't think so |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. As you said before? Not to me you didn't |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Welcome to DU. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. so you think obama is a republican? can you expand on that? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. Obama is becoming one of the weakest politicians in recent memory |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. This has become the pattern in this administration |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "Change we must have been crazy to have once believed in?" |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It's convoluted, but pretty much sums up my feeling as of today. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Point taken. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. As I see someone like Van Jones hounded from office, I wonder |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. No, it is none of the above. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Right. Real classy. Real smart. Real progressive. Obama's playing chess .... on a checkerboard |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I happen to disagree. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Actually, it had nothing to do with Obama. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I wonder why Van Jones decided not to stay and fight then? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. You have to know that the President will back you 100% and not leave you twisting in the wind |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. I love John Nichols. This article is spot on. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. I am often reminded of this post a month ago about Obama's |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. That was a good article |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. yes, thanks... It's important for the hard work of the airing of grievances |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
26. It's defusing a non-issue before the RW can make a fuss about it. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Should President Obama take a public option off the table so the RW can't make a fuss about it? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. FDR, Truman, and LBJ never asked the GOP for permission |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
34. It's called cutting your losses |
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watercolors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You are so right! He became a distration |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
36. Beck beat the crap out of Obama on this. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Yeah thats what the President should be doing |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
37. No one forced or even asked Van Jones to resign. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
38. His resignation is so weird - Obama's environmental policy isn't all that controversial |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
40. I swear some people just want to fight for the sake of fighting |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. I call bullshit on this one. My guess is Van Jones quit so people would stop digging in his shit |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. But it is now. |
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