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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:19 PM
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If President Obama's policies fail...
it won't mean the policies were wrong. It will just mean that too many Americans are selfish, bigotted, idiots. And that too many progressive Democrats sat quietly by and allowed those idiots to continue running our country in the ground. The Roves, Cheneys, Rumsfelds, and Bushes are still out there and they are being supported by the fearmongering of Beck and Limbaugh.

Those Democrats who are Christians need to call out the right-wing charlatons on their unChrist-like behaviors and bring to the forefront what their Bible teaches them about tolerance and taking care of one's fellowman .

Those Democrats who are educated need to speak out in whatever ways that are available to dispell the lies of those who are too ignorant to understand just what Obama's policies mean.

Those Democrats who have the ways and means need to stand up and become as vocal and as passionate as those who fight from the other side. We must engage in this fight for the way that is better for the whole nation and not just the few.

As an earlier poster said, it's difficult to think for oneself, but we as progressives don't give up just because something is difficult. We did something I didn't think I'd ever see in my lifetime...we elected an Afro-American to the highest office in the land.
We can do the difficult things if we choose to.

It's time we united behind our President and put all our efforts into supporting his policies...Our infighting will lead to nothing less than total failure for this administration and the resulting fallout will set our country back decades. President Obama will listen to us if we speak in one voice. The opposition is louder than we are right now and we can't allow their hateful lies to be all that the general population hears. If we do, we will have only ourselves to blame for failure.

I, for one, have stayed in the comfort zone of DU and been reluctant to post my political beliefs on other websites, but no more. I won't be an invisible Democrat any more. I don't want President Obama's policies to fail. I will be stronger than I think I can be and I will be more publicly supportive of the President than I have been.

Each day the clock ticks away and we have less and less time to do what's right.

Thank you to those who are weathering this storm well and are providing support for those of us who need it.

United we stand.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:04 PM
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1. Well said! NT
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:07 PM
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2. I don't think his policies will fail but as each day goes by and he is not
standing his ground, his supporters will feel disenfranchised. I am just hoping he has a strategy to rise above all the racist BS and get with the programme! President Obama has a mountain to climb and we should support him!
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:32 PM
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4. Absolutely!
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:10 PM
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3. When white americans go on air and want the current President to fail, if that is
not racism, then let me know when it is not!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:50 PM
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5. Yea, but it's just because it is so new and change is fearful -- give them time
err...or rather a generation or two and it will be bred out of them :P
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:52 PM
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6. I will NEVER support these policies no matter WHO is president:
*expanding the WAR in the Middle East,

*INCREASING Defense Spending

*Free Trade

*Rendition or Black Prisons

*More Money to Wall Street

*Mandated Health Insurance without a STRONG Public Option available to anyone who wants it

*Private For Profit Prisons

*The use of armed private contractors (mercenaries)

*Free Pass to the war criminals in the Bush administration

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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:55 PM
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9. Not saying my country is better but DAMN the U.S. is a mess.
oh and i recommend Free Trade :P -- gee i wonder why :P
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:55 PM
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16. +1, nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:53 PM
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7. Rec'd! n/t
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:53 PM
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8. I think the Pres has to grown into his part and learn to be more a Fighter
because i think he feels he can still work together...and that is commendable but here's hoping over the years he becomes for FDR and resent the right and do things to force quality change.

So to me i feel it is a combination of things...things that you mention in the OP but also the President for not being strong enough to demand what he wants. Every president is different and i understand Obama needs to balance things or could risk damaging his party and allow republicans a chance to get back in but as a progressive it is a bti frustrating to watch things like nothign has changed.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:00 PM
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11. His ideals I think are to unite America.
However, I don't believe that America really wants to be united. Certainly not the religious right driven Republican faction. Politics used to be about nothing more than power, but now it's just as much about religious indoctrination. I don't have a problem with religion, just as long as its tenets don't hurt other individuals or interfere with their right to equal treatment and protection under the laws of this nation.

The very idea that access to quality health care for everyone who needs it is un-American and/or unChristian is ludicrous. I should think that the churches nationwide would be shouting hallelujah that assistance could be on the way. What a wonderful mission for this nation to undertake.

The thought that a president (not to mention the first black president) should not speak to and encourage our youth to stay in school, work hard, and have opinions about government decisions is absolutely insane. This fight against the President is more Hitler-like than anything our government could ever do. Censorship is one of the first steps the Nazis took to control the population and if that's not what these religious right republicans are doing, I don't know what is.

It becomes more apparent everyday that we are in our own war right here on our own soil. It scares me and I hope that those who are advising President Obama are going to urge him to take a stronger stand. I agree with you. Nonetheless, I will support him wherever he stands because the alternative is unacceptable. The last 8 years showed us what damage can be done when so many of the educated and liberal-minded refuse to accept something less than what they think is perfect.

We voted for change...maybe President Obama has the vision that change comes more slowly than most of us would want. In this cultural environment, it doesn't really surprise me that the change is only creeping along. But it does disappoint me.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:35 AM
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10. Fail or not,
the policies are wrong.

Which is why he doesn't get support he needs from the left.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:01 PM
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12. You'd rather have McCain/Palin's policies?
I'm listening. :shrug:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:25 PM
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13. That's a stupid assumption.
Why would you assume that not liking one set of bad policy means that I would like a worse set?

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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:13 PM
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18. Just asking a question.
What policies do you suggest?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 08:17 PM
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19. The same policies I've supported for many years now.
Peace: no use of the U.S. military to bully the rest of the world; the military reserved to actually defend the U.S.. An end, NOW, to the bogus "war on terror." No empire-building.

Universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care.

Universal public pre-school through trade school or college.

De-privatization, and re-regulation, of everything that has been privatized over my lifetime.

The end of NAFTA/CAFTA; trade agreements based on labor and environmental standards.

No corporate personhood.

Stronger, and more strongly enforced, anti-trust laws.

Some modern version of a fairness doctrine.

Election reform: 100% public financing, guaranteed equal and equally neutral media coverage, debates run honestly, giving all participants equal time and allowing all to answer every question; IRV.

The end of poverty.

The end of NCLB, the "standards and accountability" movement, and the factory model of pubic education. A system that fully funds everything we need to create a public system where ALL can succeed.

Civil liberties. The rule of law. Equal rights.

That gets most.

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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:01 PM
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20. Good luck with all that. Running for public office?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:25 AM
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21. Nope.
Just voting for people who get issues correct.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:29 PM
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14. We're ready to follow our leader, whenever he's ready to go
Unfortunately, we're stuck in apology mode.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:54 PM
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15. kr, i could not agree with you more. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:00 PM
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17. There's a difference between policy failure- and failing to get policies passed
Republicans are brilliant at the latter, Trouble is, their policies are failures.

Democrats (when they're not pandering to the right) tend to have more successful policies- or would have, if they weren't so inept at getting them put into law.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 07:40 AM
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22. "It will just mean that too many Americans are selfish, bigotted, idiots"
Right, it'd be racism. :eyes: It wouldn't be, for instance, the failure of a pathetic Congress, a spineless Senate or Obama himself not pushing hard enough...it'd be because "too many Americans are selfish, bigotted, idiots."

One co-worker of mine said to me in '08 that his only real problem with the idea of an Obama presidency is that any time someone dares to disagree with him, the race card will be pulled. He couldn't have been more right.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:22 AM
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23. uh, maybe you missed all the racist shit the repukes have been pulling...
:shrug:
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 01:19 AM
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25. Uh, I'm not willing to write off half the country because of what some asshole reps do.
:shrug:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 11:30 AM
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26. no one asked you to. all that was mentioned is that there is still a lot of it out there.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:24 AM
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24. I'm with you! Stand together to rise together!
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