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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:40 AM
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Freepers struggle to find reason to be outraged by President's school speech....
...but they're trying hard.


Reading through it, it doesn’t read correctly in the first third or so of the speech - I’m betting that’s where it was scrubbed. Something is missing in there... a LOT of something.


All cleaned up and shiny bright! We probably won’t ever know what was in the original version, but you can bet your bippy it wasn’t this fairy tale.


Talk about being raised in Indonesia, missing his father throughout his life, being raised by a single parent, help in solving homelessness and AIDS. He surely is not promoting conservative values here.


LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE - They have no stake in whatever you have to say...it is you with the agenda to take over their young minds - a la hitler - and recruit for your "youth squads" in your quest for communism/socialism.


Obviously he was trying to work in a health care pitch, but it got half-scrubbed out.


Yeah, I agree, it’s simple and inspirational enough. Good. However, kids will tune it out, blah blah blah, another adult blathering on about staying in school and doing my best, yadayada. I think we scared Zero out of what he really wanted to say. Now all we have to do is keep an eye on the teachers and their plans for our kids. Some will still go through with his initial intents.


I guarantee it bears absolutely no resemblance to what was prepared three days ago.


What guarantee is there that the original speech isn’t the one he’ll actually say tomorrow after sending out this front = dampened down speech?


Really think about that comment..making our nation more free. Is there any other document on this earth that provides people from everywhere more freedom than Our Constitution?! It’s clear the constitutional scholar intends to further amend it so that is beyond recognition.


Lib crap: You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free


It’s like something out of North Korea ... or Turkmenistan(?) - (wherever it is that their dictator has the huge green book open and show a movie about himself)


“You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free.” Yep. This is liberal indoctrination.


The whole point of the speech was the teachers having the kids do the activities afterwards which made them *accountable* for helping 0bama. That's where the indoctrination comes in. The 0bamabot teachers will still do it and at least some decent school districts have made it voluntary or absent entirely.


I think this is the first of many speeches he plans to give to school children. He’ll slip in the socialist viewpoint in later speeches, when the press isn’t watching.


There is nothing particularly wrong with this speech...not now there isn't. Now that The White House was forced to change the speech from a propaganda speech created to manipulate parents through their students there is no problem at all with the text of the speech. We all know though that this was not the speech Obama was originally going to give. The liberals will act like it was but that cat was already out of the bag.


That's just a lame attempt to throw off conservatives. This clown panders to allah, not the God of Israel and he's demonstrated that multiple times. Next he'll mention “traditional values” or some sort of other buzzword in a disingenuous manner. One need only look beneath the thin veneer.


'You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free'. I stopped reading at that spot


You zero’d in on the exact same spot as me, I actually found most of the text to be acceptable except for this:

“You’ll need the knowledge and problem-solving skills you learn in science and math to cure diseases like cancer and AIDS, and to develop new energy technologies and protect our environment. You’ll need the insights and critical thinking skills you gain in history and social studies to fight poverty and homelessness, crime and discrimination, and make our nation more fair and more free.”

Take that part out, and have someone besides the snake oil salesman n chief deliver it and it would be ok.




Why do you agree with that paragraph? .... Do you believe that our nation is unfair and the people in need of more freedom? How does that square with what he is doing now expanding the powers of government and making us less free? This is Marxist code language that has been used for decades to justify more government control. And it paints an America in need of social justice and redistribution of wealth to make us more "fair," i.e., economic justice. I guess you must be a liberal.


"If he was actively advocating fighting poverty, homelessness, crime, and discrimination by working for the government you might be right." Should these be goals at all?


Most of identity hatred in this nation today is from minorities directed towards the majority....in everything...race, religion, sexual preference...you name it. This is standard lefty fodder which projects from their own weak psyches, America bad, I’m good because I want to fix it but I can’t fix myself. Homelessness....how many folks are areally homeless and not just bums, dopeheads and mentally ill that roam the streets. This ain’t Grapes of Wrath just yet


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:41 AM
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1. They just realized they over reacted and look like fools now.
No getting away from it.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:49 AM
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9. "Look like"??? C'mon Jennicut..."look like"???
If it walks like a duck...

I still dream of opening a Vegas betting parlor where they can actually lay down money on their crazy bullshit. If they truly believe it they can say they actually have money behind it.

I'd make a killing.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:54 AM
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12. LOL. I will rephrase that...they ARE fools. Hence their reactions to Obama
wanting to talk to school kids.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:56 PM
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42. Of course if they were smarter they would have a great retort..
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 03:58 PM by TxRider
Nobody remembers the outrage and congress demanding a GAO investigation into the first president Bush for speaking to kids in a school?

All over 26k in Dept of Education spending on it? I would bet the DE spent more than 26k on this.

It's all just political tit for tat.. disguised under whatever is convenient at the time.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:42 AM
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2. See Also: Bookmark this thread: After The President's speech to students, The right-wing will say...
Bookmark this thread: After The President's speech to students, The right-wing will say...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8630753&mesg_id=8630753


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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:46 AM
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5. Spot on, brilliant!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:49 AM
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24. They're so predictable....and transparent
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:20 AM
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27. !!
:rofl:

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:38 AM
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29. Obama deleted the "two in the pink, one in the stink" paragraph. n/t
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:44 PM
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38. what!!! how can you get rid of The Shocker!?!?!?
THAT'S SO FASCIST!!!

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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:43 AM
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3. Predictable. WE got it cleaned up. NO...
you look like the little petty fools you are so you've got to make up something else.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:48 AM
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7. Taking credit where none is due. Not sure who they think they are
convincing with that line of 'reasoning.' Pretty much only appeals to the 28%ers anyway.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:32 AM
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21. honestly?
I think that some of them are so far gone, that they actually believe that.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:44 AM
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4. The poster who claims that President Obama is "pandering to allah" seems
especially demented.

And I'm not going to throw any hard elbows here. People like that suffer. It's a terrible thing to have your entire brain slowly eaten away to the point where you can't even feed yourself and all you can do all day is spew jibberish and slanderous remarks about intelligent, capable people around you.

It's a tragic thing, losing one's capacity to think and reason. These people need help.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:21 AM
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16. You think their heads would explode if someone told them
that "Allah" is just Islam's way of saying "God"?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:28 PM
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43. Good question. They might. It would worth a try, anyway.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:46 PM
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45. It's the Arabic word for God, Arab Christians call God "Allah", too.
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 09:47 PM by Odin2005
It literally is the same thing as English "The Lord", "al-" is the definitive article and "lah" is "lord" or "god".
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:48 AM
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6. Free Republic is the online church for idiots and morons
What never fails to amaze is the selectivity with which these idiots see the world. GW Bush and Co. RAVAGED the Constitution and these folks cheered him on at every step. Obama becomes President and these jerkoffs go apeshit over what he MIGHT do.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:06 AM
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26. I wonder if it isn't a principle with them.
They see omens as more important than actions. It seems to apply in so many cases for RW types, that what they think is impending seems so much worse to them than anything that's happening now. In an extreme case, you should give up all your actual liberties to protect the dangers impending on "Liberty."
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:57 AM
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34. In other words, they're paranoid.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:49 AM
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8. Conservatives value homelessness and AIDS deaths.
Out of the mouths of morons:

Talk about being raised in Indonesia, missing his father throughout his life, being raised by a single parent, help in solving homelessness and AIDS. He surely is not promoting conservative values here.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:51 AM
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33. The same people who think Bristol Palin is the Virgin Mary object to the President
mentioning single parents.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:50 AM
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10. "...help in solving homelessness and AIDS. He surely is not promoting conservative values here."
Man, we don't even have to try to villianize these people, they do most of the work for us.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:59 AM
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14. That's the one that stood out for me too, extraordinary stuff, they wallow in their inhumanity.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:53 AM
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11. Just goes to prove Van Jones was right
Republican'S really are ASSHOLES !
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 08:58 AM
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13. "All of yo babez is belongz to ME!!!!"
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 08:59 AM by Clio the Leo
Which we ALL know is the REAL opening line from the speech .... conveniently cut from the draft released yesterday.



(But you and I both know he's gonna stick that back in when the speech goes live. DUR!)



Of course anyone with any sense knows Obama isn't gonna STEAL the babies ....... he doesn't have to.

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:17 AM
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15. No having to wear burkas, no painting the White House black,
No William Aries running the show. No taxes have been raised. No surrender in the wars. No white people being oppressed. No auto companies being micro-managed. No new stock market crashing. No objectionable speech to the kids. Keep this up and he'll get re-elected for sure.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:26 AM
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17. "he is certainly not promoting conservative values here"
it still hasn't sunk in for these people that they lost.

I heard a lot of criticisms of Bush by liberals, but I never heard us complain that he did not promote liberal values. Duh.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:26 AM
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18. Don't you remember when you were a kid? They won't tune it out
because they know something about it is objectionable to their parents. That means that many will tune in just to figure out what that is.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:27 AM
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19. "...fighting poverty, homelessness, crime, and discrimination...should these be goals?"
Yeah, heaven forbid we strive for goals such as these.

:eyes:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:45 AM
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31. More Crime!!! MORE!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:31 AM
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20. Typical Republican: anti-curing cancer or AIDS, anti-fighting homelessness and poverty,
anti-crime fighting...

what hypocrites and shitbags they are.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:48 AM
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32. Yeah, we sure don't want kids to become scientists or doctors and find cures.
How socialist is that?

:puke:
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:38 AM
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22. What? He's not hypnotizing the children?
I'm truly surprised they haven't accused him of that. They were sure he was using mass hypnosis or NLP or some such bullshit in his campaign speeches, remember?
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:43 AM
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30. Well, I guess I spoke too soon...
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:40 AM
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23. The Legion of Liars (Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, et al) will soon deliver
yet another non-issue, fear-based, distraction to keep the right wing sheep agitated.

Probably regarding the upcoming 9/11 memorials, and Obama not being _______ enough (angry, patriotic, war-mongering, genuinely emotional, blah blaaah, baaaaaaa)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:55 AM
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25. Jesus H. Christ.
This is unbelievable.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:26 AM
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28. fucking idiots
I want so badly to just laugh at them, but they cause so much harm. I am afraid of them.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:04 PM
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35. The RW look stupid as usual
The speech was well received. I can't believe all the -ve responses I got to my post ' Defy your school system'this morning!
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:17 PM
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36. Just about what I figured from the Freepers. "Obama was forced
to change his speech." LOL. Idiots.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:30 PM
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37. I'm looking forward to them producing the much mentioned original speech he was going to give
:rofl:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:55 PM
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39. As a Lincoln scholar
...He probably wrote it on the train, on the back of his Kenyan birth certificate. :D
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:29 PM
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41. "Dear Kids, report your parents to me for voting for McCain/Palin and you'll get ice cream and smut"
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:13 PM
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40. "hitler communism socialism" Wow. I knew freepers were stupid, but oy!
Holy shit are they ever dumb!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:40 PM
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44. BWAHAHA!!! Idiots.
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