Majority whip Jim Clyburn. Just said the public option is not

[ej510]

essential. He used the word trigger. :argh: :mad: :puke:

[ej510]

1. It was on MSNBC.

[polichick]

2. Did he say who he's been talking to about it? nt

[ej510]

4. No.

[grantcart]

7. It was a little bit of an 'ambush' question.

He was trying to respond to this question


"Has the term 'public option' become so toxic that simply the term has become an obstacle. Is there some other word or approach we could use that would get the same result but not be so inflammatory".


I think in trying to respond he simply mispoke and did not indicate a change in position.

[polichick]

9. I see - thanks! nt

[Pirate Smile]

3. There may be a way to make it work.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/09/trigger-with-teeth.html

[Mystayya]

5. Yeah they've been prepping us for the switch to a trigger for a week now.

pathetic, weak and disappointing.

[grantcart]

6. It was a question about how "toxic" the word public option had become

He also said that competition was essential.

He also said that trying to find another way to foster competition could be tried out on a regional basis.



I think he just mispoke his real position. It happens.

[The Wielding Truth]

8. It is needed to counter the ins. companies avoidance moves.

Without this portion on the bill insurance companies will just invent new ways to get their money.
It is being done by the credit card companies who when faced with the laws passed to not change the interest rates for overdrawing and paying late have in some cases doubled the monthly payment and changed the interest rates so that you lose your agreed term low rates. They have devised other ways too to screw the consumer.

With out a program to compete there is no reason for them to behave reasonably.

[The Wielding Truth]

11. Just called Altmire's office . He will not vote against PO if it can be pd for.

I expressed the extreme necessity that a Public Option be put in place to counter the heartless profiteering moves of insurance companies.

With the competition of a public backed program it will be very difficult for the insurance companies to take advantage of those who are without guaranteed funds or powerful connections.

[ShortnFiery]

10. NO! Not Jim Clyburn?!? Dammit! I don't even recognize my party.

:grr: :nuke:

[ej510]

12. Trigger will never kick in, because the lobbyist will block it.

[TheKentuckian]

13. I despise his "pilot program" idea even worse than the trigger

I'd say that is the ultimate "four corners" proposal. We can set up tiny non-national experiments and derive flawed data to argue over for any number of years at the cost of millions and/or billions.

[ej510]

14. Joe Lieberman just said we don't need a government run health care plan.

[Raineyb]

16. I dont see that rat bastard giving his up. n/t

[ej510]

17. Of course not. We are fucked.

[Mass]

15. Clyburn has never been a strong supporter of a public option now.

He always said that it was better to pass a simpler bill.