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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:06 PM
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I have been disappointed, at times, as I imagine a lot of folks here have been as well about
Presidents Obama's seemingly endless patience with the GOP.

He has played it all the way to the end, hoping he will get at least some republicans to recognize the dire straights our Health Care system is in here in the bestest most goodest country in the whole wide world. Honestly. You can look it up!

And we have all been gnashing our teeth and beating our keyboards as yet another loony leaps out of the woodwork with more bat shit crazy claims about Obamacare and narry a peep from the president. Just half hearted corrections by his minions.

And still the Administration hunkers on, waiting for that glimmer of compromise he has staked the whole program on.

But consider this; What if president Obama was feeding out the line so he could catch all the crazy shit the far right had to offer as an alternative?What if the president was playing the right by backing them into a corner that they made for themselves?

I mean they have drawn a pretty wide line in the sand those crafty republicans.

It's almost as if they have put the interests of their party over the best interests of the country.

Oh yea, that is what it looks like. Hmmmm, not even willing to compromise on Co-op's.

Interesting.

Sure they will keep their wacky base, but if they are nothing more than the party of NO!, don't they look like a petulant child throwing a fit in a store?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:16 PM
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1. I do believe the rethugs are being played and Dems and the prez
will prevail in the end. The stakes are too high for us, which is why the rethugs are are fighting this so vociferously. The fact they have had nothing to offer doesn't help their cause either.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:39 PM
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8. I'm starting to really believe that he is handing them the rope they will
need to hang themselves.

It's not going to work in places like Oklahoma or Idaho, but it will give people pause to think in more middle-of-the-road locations.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:23 PM
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13. The ol' "Rope a Dope" maneuver!
Yep... I've been saying that all along. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am;)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:17 PM
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2. he's running for reelection
That's the only reason I can see for the tolerance.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:19 PM
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5. I would think the recent flap over the speach to kids
Was a perfect example of what Obama is doing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:49 PM
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10. ahh, too bad you don't have any better
scope than that.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:18 PM
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3. Many here have been saying this for months
We are about to see who was right. I personaly think he has been consistent in his MO since the primaries began. Time after time he has let the competition get so outrageous with their comments they can no longer be taken seriously and then he has stepped in and meade them look like the fools they were being and in the process came out looking reasonable and right headed.

This health care debate is no different.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:50 PM
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11. No it is
not..any different:)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:25 PM
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15. I'm one of the many...
Edited on Wed Sep-09-09 03:25 PM by JuniperLea
We shall see! I hope I'm right! I'll be mightily cheesed off if I'm wrong... but I'm not going to worry about that right now... fiddle de de, tomorrow is another day!

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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:18 PM
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4. I don't know if it was a deliberate strategy, but that seems to be how its working out
I'm not sure whether Obama was totally committed to the p.o., but the funny thing is, if he drops it, and the Repugs still are against health care reform, he's pretty much then free to bring it back with a vengeance, because they will have proven they don't want health care reform purely for political reasons, and not for any policy or even ideological reasons.
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CKennedy16 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:21 PM
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12. Why do you say that?
Edited on Wed Sep-09-09 03:22 PM by CKennedy16
Huh? If BO drops PO it creates the perception that the Beckleheads actually have serious credibility... if anything FAUX will spin this AGAINST Obama based on politics, and again, they will win. :nopity:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:22 PM
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6. I do believe that this is all a big waltz. We've been morphing into a Corporate Nation ...
since the days of Reagan. These "bread and circuses" masked a partisanship are just the last nails in the coffin of our Democratic Republic.

We get to vote R or D every couple of years, yet everything within the Congress is legislation that BENEFITS CORPORATIONS above the need of the individual American.

Welcome to the full realization of a Corporate Duopoly. :(

I can't lie to myself anymore: the Corporations pull all the strings of our THREE branches of Government.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:37 PM
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7. Somewhere there must be a line in the sand: "That's it, no more, no more."
Stand up to the bullies. Show them the Chicago way. No more.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 02:46 PM
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9. They'll always have their wacky base...
They helped create them, and they're stuck with them.

I do believe that he is doing just what you think he is...

They don't even see the corner they've gotten themselves trapped in.

He wants to succeed, after all!

K&R

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:23 PM
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14. I can't really believe that they would plan for something that would take 15 points off his approval
:shrug:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:29 PM
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16. I believe they were shocked with how gullible the folks on the right
really are and how fast the political right glommed onto that crazy as a loon.
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