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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:22 PM
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President Obama's health care speech will lack demand for public option

President Obama's health care speech will lack demand for public option
BY Kenneth R. Bazinet and Michael Mcauliff
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - If you're a liberal New Yorker, prepare to be disappointed by President Obama's prime-time speech Wednesday night on health care reform.

Whether or not he's successful in prodding Congress into action, Obama will not demand the key Democratic goal of offering a public health insurance option.

"He will continue to equivocate like he and his staff have been doing recently," an informed congressional source said.

He and his staff recently have shifted from calling government-run insurance a must-have to a "very valuable tool."


For most of New York's Democrats, a final proposal must have a public insurance option to help those who can't afford it.

"At some point, there has to be a line in the sand," said Brooklyn Rep. Yvette Clarke, who won't back a bill with no government plan. "With all due respect to our President, and I respect him highly, that's not an option for me."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/09/09/2009-09-09_obamas_health_care_speech_will_lack_public_option.html


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Obama to Tout 'Public Option' in Speech to Congress
By Michael D. Shear, Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, September 9, 2009

President Obama will spell out his plan to overhaul the U.S. health-care system in a nationally televised speech to Congress Wednesday night, providing more specifics about what he wants lawmakers to pass and a sweeping description of his reform goals, including nuanced support for a "public option," according to senior White House officials.

Briefing reporters hours before the speech, aides said Obama will endorse the option of a government-run health insurance program -- a controversial element of the debate -- but will call it "not an end in itself" while saying he is open to other specific ideas that have been floated as alternatives that could encourage insurance competition.

Earlier, Obama signaled that he would extol the value of the public option but would stop short of threatening to veto a bill that does not include the provision.

Obama's plan will include a health exchange, guaranteed insurance and tax credits for people who cannot afford it, measures to reduce costs, caps on out-of-pocket expenses and proposals to finance it all, the aides said.

"This is not a debate over whether we have a public option for the tens of millions of people who are not insured," one of the advisers said. Instead, he said, Obama will note that under his plan, hundreds of millions of people would remain in private insurance and not even have the choice of whether to join the public option.

In particular, many Democrats said they hoped Obama would deliver a strong defense of the public option amid reports that the White House is open to a compromise on the subject, such as a "trigger" that would launch a government-run program if private insurance companies failed to meet certain benchmarks.

"Trigger is another way of saying, 'kill the public option,' " said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.). He complained that the administration's message on health care "sounds like Sybil," referring to the famous case of a woman with multiple personalities.

Please read the complete article at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/09/AR2009090901771.html?hpid=topnews




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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:23 PM
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1. thanks, Kreskin
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:24 PM
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2. I think I'll wait to hear the speech rather than rely on the likes of the Post or the Daily news
The Post in particular is little more than a propaganda outlet.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:29 PM
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3. The RW Wackos will believe this even after the speech is different...
And they will argue these points instead of anything the president really says.\

Just another day in Wonderland.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:31 PM
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4. I love it when people tell me as a liberal what I'm supposed to be disappointed with. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:33 PM
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5. So if he makes a strong defense for a public option you won't be happy? n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:36 PM
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6. No, it won't be "robust" enough.
nothing will be enough for some people, I know you know that.

;)

I can't wait to watch...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:38 PM
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7. Exactly.
Yup, I know that.

:)

Neither can I.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:44 PM
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12. It depends how you define "robust".

The Congressional Progressive Caucus leaders have clearly defined what they mean by a strong and robust public option. I agree with their definition.

Do you support them or will a bogus "public option" in name only be acceptable to you .... along with a trigger perhaps.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:33 PM
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16. I think Max Baucus had the most "robust" public option of them all!
j/k...

Congress has to pull together and offer something, even if it's small at first, that's truly publicly financed.

This could take any number of forms.

I like Anthony Weiner's approach, I'll settle for medicare being offered to a small number of new enrollees with an eye toward expansion.

But there are other approaches, we'll have to wait and see.

But also have to remember that Obama doesn't write legislation, he can only signal what he will and will not sign, what he does and does not want to see.

:patriot:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 05:03 PM
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18. ALL residents frequently present detailed legislative proposals to Congress.

Congress can tinker with and change the language of legislation proposed by a President and frequently do.

So yes, Obama can write legislation and present it to Congress via party leaders in Congress who act as formal sponsors of those bills.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:45 PM
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14. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:40 PM
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8. LMAO!!!
You've finally hit bottom.

The New York Daily News? Washington Post? Come on man, you're not even trying anymore. :+
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:42 PM
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10. But the Whorsington Post is the mouthpiece of the ruling elite ...
Obama and his DLC/blue dogs, et. al. are part of the ruling elite. :shrug:
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:17 PM
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15. And thats your
OPINION and you have every right to your opinion. But I also have the same right to think your opinion is bullshit.

First Obama is Bush lite and now Obama is a blue dog? Yeah, ok. What will he be next week?
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:45 PM
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13. But, but, but it's "an informed congressional source." Informed!! Congressional! It must true!! nt.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:42 PM
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9. jesus christ, you're like the energized bunny of BS.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 03:43 PM
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11. No JC would have backed socialized - single payer - health care.
:evilgrin:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-09-09 04:43 PM
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17. How do you or they know what was in the speech?
Please rely on facts not conjecture and speculation.

*Unrecommended.
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