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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:32 PM Original message |
My biggest issue with this bill is it will take 4-5 years to kick. This worries me, |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Me, too. But I can see that it would take a while to set up these new systems, |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The democrats better hold onto the majority, because the repukes |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yup, 4 to 5 years to get "the system" going, 100,000 more Americans dead as a result of no health |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. 4 to 5 years means it's not a priority. That kind of time line will give them a chance |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yep. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Oh, but Obama says single payer would be "starting from scratch" |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Who would pay for that? Do you have an estimate of the cost? |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Medicare is going bankrupt because it can't negotiate drug prices |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yeah, that's a big part of it. Huge. Even so, it's going bankrupt. YOu didn't answer the Q. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Forgetting, of course, that if we had Medicare for all |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Here's how a Single Payer Medicare system can be funded. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. When I add up my share of the premium, |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. He never said a thing about the pharmaceutical industry. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. +1 |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Medicare was implemented in less than a year. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. 4-5 years means the health care bill will be shit by the time it's ready. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. If voluntary buy-in to Medicare is allowed, there is NO set-up time whatsoever. n/t |
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JimWis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. I hear you. The time line bothers me too. But I did hear the |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. There's a reason Obama wants to phase in reforms after the 2012 election.. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. To repeat - MEDICARE WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 11 MONTHS. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The message is that this is too difficult to accomplish- so we'll toss out a few platitudes |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Amazing isn't it? |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I'll take "because he's bought and paid for". |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Please phrase your answer in the form of a question. |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. True. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. But in what year? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. It is mostly a budget move. Starting faster puts it on the books and it jacks up the accounting.(nt) |
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NecklyTyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
25. That gives us 4-5 years to bring in Single Payer. n/t |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. me too!! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The budget window is 10 years. All the plans seek to collect revenue |
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