Wait a minute...it won't take effect until 2013?

[rollingrock]

he likens healthcare to an urgent crisis, a national emergency, and yet says it won't take effect until four years from now? Does that make sense to anybody?

I heard most of the speech when it aired, but I guess I didn't catch that part.







(OTOH, if it turns out to be a crappy Romneycare type of bill then most of us will probably be glad it doesn't take effect for a long time.)

[villager]

1. It'll give us a chance to save up for our forced patronizing of the insurance racketeers

n/t

[madfloridian]

2. From the transcript:

This is how I read it:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/transcript-obama-addresses-congress-health-care-reform/

OBAMA: And all insurance companies that want access to this new marketplace will have to abide by the consumer protections I already mentioned.

This exchange will take effect in four years, which will give us time to do it right. In the meantime, for those Americans who can't get insurance today because they have preexisting medical conditions, we will immediately offer low-cost coverage that will protect you against financial ruin if you become seriously ill.

OBAMA: And the insurance reforms that I've already mentioned would do just that, but an additional step we can take to keep insurance companies honest is by making a not-for-profit public option available in the insurance exchange."

[4lbs]

3. Why did you go to Fox News of all places?

:wow:

[madfloridian]

13. Because they had the transcript up first.

I saw it linked at a Democratic site and went there.

A transcript by any other name.....

[4lbs]

14. Oh ok. I just distrust anything that has Fox News linked to it. The paranoid part of me would

think they would slip a "little extra white lie" into the transcript.

[avaistheone1]

6. I do not have warm fuzzies about these insurance co-op exchanges.

There is an urgent need now. The Democrats should have gone with a winning plan, they could turn on Medicare now for everyone. That would have been the simple way to go, and Medicare is a popular plan. They would not have encountered so much resistance. The Democrats need to rethink Medicare.

There are millions of people who can not wait four years.

[grasswire]

4. that was explained on msnbc

The reason for that is because they want the cost of the plan to be gradual. If they rolled it out now, it would be too shocking, apparently. A cynic might note that 2013 is after 2012 and election.

[rollingrock]

7. What about the consumer protections?

after the bill is passed, when would those go into effect?

[dflprincess]

5. HR3200 has always had that for the start up date

and it is a Romney Care piece of crap.

[Tansy_Gold]

8. I'mone of the low-income uninsured with a pre-existing condition

Doesn't sound like there's any "change" in this for me at all.

:puke:


Tansy Gold, who will be 65 in 2013 and eligible for Medicare anyway, if she lives that long

[Clio the Leo]

9. lol, yes you CLEARLY didn't hear all of the speech...

.... as he explained your question RIGHT after the part about it not going into effect for most Americans for four years.

May I humbly ask that you take some time and read the whole thing. (here's another source since you didn't like the one above)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_health_care_text

[quantass]

10. Kinda stings when he also said the Republican favored thing would be test trialed Immediately...

If i recall it was something that McCain had favored regarding malpractice (i cant remember exactly)? I figure Obama is doing this to appease republicans and maybe get some to have a second look at his plan.

[kath]

11. Yeah, ain't it fokkin' great -- WOO-HOO!!

How many more people will die due to lack of access to health care in the next decade????

This ain't the kind of change I voted for.

MEDICARE WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 11 MONTHS.

Looks like we're getting RomneyCare type bullshit...

[ProSense]

12. Four years is an outside date. If you listen

to Sherrod Brown, the plan the President gets will likely have an earlier effective date.

[Jennicut]

15. I thought that was kind of a guesstimate in the House version of the bill.

I would like to see it implemented earlier but would that effect the way he wants to keep costs down?

[scheming daemons]

16. Fight him on it hard enough, and it will take effect NEVER

....that seems to be the goal of some clueless people on the left though.

[xchrom]

17. and some centrists stupidly think the 'perfect' is the enemy of the 'good' -- nt

[gauguin57]

18. Damn. The world's ending on Dec. 21, 2012! I'll never get reasonably priced health insurance!

Cripes.