Why does he hate 'merca? Tim Pawlenty: I Might Invoke the 10th Amendment to Stop Health Care Reform

[jefferson_dem]

Tim Pawlenty: I Might Invoke the 10th Amendment to Stop Health Care Reform
By David Weigel 9/10/09 10:24 PM On a Thursday night conference call with conservative activists, moderated by Erick Erickson of RedState, Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.) broached the possibility of “asserting the 10th Amendment” to keep Minnesota from fully participating in a health care plan passed by Congress and signed by President Obama. The 10th Amendment reads:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The question from the caller: “I want to know if any of the governors are willing to invoke the 10th Amendment if the health care bill is passed.” Pawlenty’s answer, below the fold:
Thank you for the question. It’s a great question. I don’t think the nation’s had a proper federalism debate since Ronald Reagan raised the issue regularly in the 1980s. And by federalism of course we mean the proper relationship between the federal government and the states, trained as a cornerstone around the 10th Amendment. I believe that amendment has been discounted to the point of making me very sad.

Depending on what the federal government comes out with here, asserting the 10th Amendment might be viable option, but we don’t know the details. As one of the other callers said, we can’t really even get the president to outline what he does or doesn’t support in any detail. So we’ll have to see. I’d say that’s a possibility.

You’re starting to see more governors, including me, and specifically Gov. Perry from Texas, and most Republican governors express concern around these issues and get more aggressive about asserting and bringing up the 10th Amendment. So I think we could see hopefully a resurgence of those claims and maybe even lawsuits if need be.

http://washingtonindependent.com/58584/tim-pawlenty-i-might-invoke-the-10th-amendment-to-stop-health-care-reform

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Oh, fuck that guy sideways.

Is he gonna make us secede too, along with Texas? He won the governor election last time by just a whisker, and if he fucks with Minnesota's access to reformed health care his future political career will be toast. And there will be people with torches and pitchforks storming the capitol.

[Ilsa]

3. What an odd union that would be on a map. nt

[Cha]

4. Me thinks he's beating on his hairy chest like

a perverted Tarzan so he can run against the President in 2012.

[dflprincess]

11. He won the first time with something like 35% of the vote

last time with 45%. Other DUers, please note that the majority of Minnesotans were smart enough not to vote for him.

I wonder what he thinks of John Marty's plan for Minnesota to develop it's own single payer system? You'd think he's have to support it as it is the state making that choice so it would be in the spirit of what he thinks the 10th Amendment means.

[Jennicut]

22. Is it because an independent ran also?

[mzmolly]

26. Yes.

"In the general election, Pawlenty faced two strong opponents. His main rival was veteran Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL) state senator Roger Moe. Complicating matters, former Democratic Congressman Tim Penny ran on the Independence Party ticket, with polls at times suggesting a very tight three-man race. In September 2002, the three were essentially tied. Pawlenty campaigned on a pledge not to raise taxes to balance the state's budget deficit, requiring visa expiration dates on driver's licenses, a 24-hour waiting period on abortions, implementing a conceal-carry gun law, and changing the state's education requirements. Pawlenty prevailed over both challengers at the polls. His largest gains since a poll conducted that September were among voters in the suburbs of Minneapolis-St. Paul."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Pawlenty">WIKI

[Cha]

2. And, just how would the Minnesotans

feel about that..the ones who aren't batshit brainwashed?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Torches and pitchforks on the steps of the capitol, like I said.

[Cha]

18. Pawlenty would

have asked for it.

[mzmolly]

25. Absolutely!

:grr:

[sandnsea]

5. lol, dissolve states' right to control insurance

but insist states don't have the right to implement an insurance exchange.

Each state will have its own insurance exchange and this is exactly why.

[tanyev]

6. Ooh, that'll show all those people sneaking across the border from Canada to get free US healthcare

Wait...

[pdxmom]

8. Will he also block Medicare under that same 10th amendment? Seems

to me that if you are going to say you won't accept one, then you can't possibly accept the other. Either the 10th amendment applies in both cases or it doesn't apply in both cases.

And how about the 22% of the Minnesota state budget that relies on federal grants? Giving that back, too?

[rwheeler31]

9. You live in Minnesota you freak.

The people are not going to succeed from the union.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Or secede, either. We just won't do it.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

23. Although I could be persuaded if Canada would take us.

Ontario and Manitoba are within a day's drive from Minneapolis. We'd be one of their smaller provinces, but we're almost as cold as the bigger ones.

[Hugabear]

12. I am so sick and fucking tired of these "Tenth Amendment" freaks

Don't you just love the battles they choose to whip out the Tenth Amendment to fight with?

[jgraz]

21. Get ready. Most of the Bush SCOTUS are Tenth Amendment freaks

If this case ever gets to the Supreme Court, we will be well and truly fucked.

[Metta]

13. The desparate flappings of a deluded mind. Nothing to see here.

... same old b.s. to see who salutes it. Happy karma, Timmy.

[napi21]

14. He stole that from the 2 Ga. state senators from Marietta.

They threatened that last week. Of course that was before they realized they could lose Medicare & Medicaid too!

[TygrBright]

15. Would someone please stop by Summit Avenue, knock politely...

...on Timmy the Tool's door, and remind him that his effing fifteen minutes are long, long over?

Thanks so much...

appreciatively,
Bright

[ShadowLiberal]

16. That'll work out about as well as South Carolina not paying taxes under Jackson's reign

I'm sure his 'attempt' will work out just like South Carolina refusing to pay tariffs under Andrew Jackson's reign.

What happened was Jackson ordered the army to move in to enforce the tariff, then his VP from South Carolina (who had been encouraging the rebellion, but then got scared for his life when Jackson was using the army) and Henry Clay quickly stepped in and got South Carolina to back down before any shots were fired.

So yeah, go ahead, try to refuse Obama's health care, and medicare & medicaid to while you're at it, see how well that goes over with the voters Pawlenty. You said yourself justifying taking all the stimulus money for your state that it paid more in taxes to the federal government then it collected back from it.

[rurallib]

17. Tim, don't stop with health care. Stop that medicare and social security

and money for bridge repairs, schools and libraries and cops and generating electyricity.
Stand up, up up, Gubner Tim. Wave your fist at those oppressors in Washington.
The run for president. Base it on the wreck you made in Minnesota.
Maybe get that I35 bridge fixed before you take your gallant stand.
And those people dying in the street - fuck 'em

[burning rain]

19. 2012 primary politics, I suspect.

Trying to build a cachet with the hard right. No chance. He has neither the standing in the party nor the charisma. All he's going to do with this is make an ass of himself--this is the sort of loony stand that would kill you in the general election even if it gave you the edge in the primary. Hey, Tim, why not promise to "exile the Kenyan to his native land" while you're at it? Fucking clown.

[DebbieCDC]

20. Is he still around?

He's kept his yap shut for so long he just drifted off my radar.

Too bad it didn't stay that way.

[Canuckistanian]

24. Isn't Pawlenty hanging by a thread politically?

I don't think he has anywhere NEAR the political capital to pull this off.

He's a lame duck governor who's pissing off people left AND right over his dictatorial ways.

Not to mention that it's going to be damn near impossible legally to assert imagined 10th amendment rights. This is settled law.

[mzmolly]

27. He's not going to run again,

but he may be seeking the Presidency and this kind of move would lose him Minnesota's electoral votes IMHO.

[Hutzpa]

28. Funny how they choose

the part they like and throw the rest away.

What happened to the other nine Tim?

What happened to the other chapters in the 10th amendments?

IOKIYAR huh.... :shrug:

Yet there are some here who thinks this is not about race....ha!