Self-Destruct Button, Activiated!

[babylonsister]

:grr:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/self-destruct-button-activiated

Self-Destruct Button, Activiated!

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Jonathan Cohn
* September 11, 2009 | 2:39 pm


Max Baucus and Kent Conrad think Joe Wilson--you know, the discredited Republican congressman who shouted out "lie" during President Obama's speech--may have had a point after all. And so, before they're done negotiating a bill that they hope to release next week, they're going to make triple sure to keep undocumented workers from getting health insurance subsidies--even if the bill was never going to provide such subsidies in the first place.

Everything Brian Beutler, Ezra Klein and Matt Yglesias say about this is true. Undocumented workers would not be eligible for taxpayer-funded assistance under reform. Instead, if they wanted insurance, they'd have to pay for it with their own money, like they do now.

It's true that illegals would be buying coverage through a market that is more heavily regulated than today's. But is that something we're really going to start policing? We don't generally make a habit of checking residency papers at the grocery store, simply because the FDA has rules about food safety. (And I hope we don't start. The lines at my grocery store are long enough already, thank you very much.)

But let's put aside the policy issues. This is about politics right, right? But the politics of this are beyond stupid. After weeks of playing defense, the White House and its allies finally have momentum going again. Wilson's stunt has helped, by making the public see just how extreme, and uncooperative, the Republicans really are. Now here come Baucus and Conrad to the Republicans' rescue, giving Wilson the veneer of legitimacy.

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. So corporate mandated forced insurance wasn't enough for those two goddamn douchebags?

Why do these two idiots get to have so much say over ANYTHING? Jesus Christ on a nuclear powered pogo stick, they're from fucking Montana and North Dakota, for fucks sake. Sorry to any ACTUAL Democrats who live in those states (unlike those useless fucks) but they represent a microscopic fraction of the population, so why the FUCK are they setting the agenda?

[The Magistrate]

3. Reid, Sir, Is The Wretch Responsible

It will not trouble me to see him beaten by a Republican next year. The creature is an absolute disgrace.

[JuniperLea]

2. Have you seen this?

We are already seeing some flight due to lack of jobs... now this... we may see even more.

WSJ

SEPTEMBER 8, 2009

Worker Status Checks to Start - Federal Contractors Required to Use Electronic System to Verify Employees' Eligibility

By CAM SIMPSON

WASHINGTON -- Agencies across the federal government on Tuesday will start ordering contractors to use an electronic system to verify whether their employees are eligible to work in the U.S.

The sweeping new mandate, crafted by the Bush White House but being implemented by the Obama administration, represents a significant expansion for the so-called E-Verify system, which government officials and independent experts expect to eventually become mandatory for private employers. Already, some states require companies operating within their borders to use it, regardless of whether the companies have government contracts.

U.S. District Court Judge Alexander Williams Jr. rejected an 11th-hour-effort late Friday by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other business groups to delay the mandate while a federal appeal is pending. Upset about the liability the mandate puts on employers, the groups suing argue it is illegal for the government to extend E-Verify to contractors through an executive order. The Chamber argues that given the state of the economy, this isn't the time to add more costs to U.S. businesses.

Judge Williams had in August dismissed a lawsuit by the groups seeking to have the program thrown out after the Justice Department fought to keep it intact. The Obama administration is using the program as part of its efforts to shift the emphasis in immigration enforcement by focusing on employers.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125236773673291025.html

[The Magistrate]

4. No Surprise, Ma'am: Republican Businessmen Fight To Keep Employing Illegal Workers

If the owners of companies who employ them were jailed, the thing would be settled within weeks....

[JuniperLea]

6. I find it interesting that Bush started this...

but didn't finish. Seems par for the course... and in this case, an empty gesture.

Obama picking it up and forcing the issue must surely be cheesing off some corporate big wigs, and the Congress Critters they pay off yearly.

[The Magistrate]

8. That Was Their Style, Ma'am

A bit of a show for the rubes, and keep the money coming to the swells.

The whole thing is tolerated and even promoted by business for the express purpose of depressing wages here.

[liberal N proud]

9. Exactly

They like to demonize the ones that are here doing the work. But it is the business owners who keep hiring illegals.

In some cases, they even bring them into areas to put them to work.

Fine and jail the business owners who are hiring these people and they will stop coming to the United States for work.

Problem solved.


But then it is like everything else republican, they partake of the sins they so preach and campaign against.

[yowzayowzayowza]

11. Wonder what would happen if we treated employment of

illegal workers like as drug possession? Seize the business and sell it off!!!! Priorities, priorities.

[Cha]

5. How gawd damn craven stupid do you have to be?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8636511#8637564

[Hutzpa]

7. Every time I see their faces

my skin tends to crawl for some reason, why is Obama still dealing with these
folks whose idea of bi-partisanship is to screw him and then panders to the special
interest to something of this effect...."see we told you he is nobody"

How many times can a snake bite you???

Maybe they feel like they own the President.

Just wondering....

:grr:

[Cha]

10. They sure got an evil snap of each

of these corporateassholes for their Wall of Shame mug shot.