Last night's 60 minutes: the one thing I wish Obama had said that he didn't;

[hedgehog]

Steve Kroft suggested to Obama that we should put off health care reform another year since we have all these other problems right now. Obama gave a good answer, noting that health care reform is the first step to solving a lot of problems. Still, I wish he could have looked Kroft in the eye and asked him what kind of insurance/health care he gets, then gone on to ask Kroft if he wants to tell so-and so, losing his house because of his cancer, to wait another year, or so-and -so, going without treatment for diabetes to wait another year, etc.

[Tansy_Gold]

1. But that would have been confrontational, and I don't think

Obama ever gets involved in anything confrontational if he can avoid it.

[bigwillq]

4. And that's one of Obama's major problems (nt)

[Solomon]

5. LOL Obama LIVES controversial.

He can't even put his pants on without somebody hollering that he stuck the wrong leg in first.

You guys kill me.

[bigwillq]

6. And you blind followers kill me.

The President is very often criticized a lot, no matter who it is or what party they belong to. Why do you have such a problem with that?

[DevonRex]

7. And thus your true character is revealed to all.

:rofl:

[bigwillq]

9. Oh, please. It's a message board.

OOOHH OOOHHH my "true" character is revealed on a message board. OOOH OOOH

I'm scared. No one's gonna like me anymore.


:eyes:



:rofl:

[LibDemAlways]

2. I had dinner Saturday with someone who works for CBS news.

The subject of health care came up and he stated that CBS offers "the gold standard" in health care coverage. He couldn't be more happy with it.

Just once I would like to see the tables turned on reporters who question the need for immediate reform when they themselves are very well taken care of.

[uponit7771]

3. Yeap, most commenting on health care have REALLY REALLY good health insurance

[Overseas]

8. The one thing I wish President Obama had not said

was how "extremists on the left and right" had various demands on healthcare.

We have extremists on the right, instigated by professional bullying, who shout down any attempts at good government.

But from the liberal side we just have people who demand single payer or Medicare for All. That is not extreme. I don't think Rep. Anthony Weiner is an extremist.

We don't have fleets of communists storming town halls to demand the nationalization of all health care facilities. That would be the extreme equivalent of those right wing protesters.

[luckyleftyme2]

10. HOW DO YOU GET THE MEDIA ON THE SIDE OF THE MASSES?

HAVE YOU SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS IN YOUR LOCAL MEDIA? YOUR 6:OO NEWS? YOUR NATIONAL NEWS?
WELL ITS ALL OVER THE TWITTER AND WEB:
crooksandliars.com

Well, frumps, in a kinder, gentler (less informed) time Rep. Joe “You Lie” Wilson might have gotten away with a sharp rebuke for bad manners but would still be able to ride his “high horse” into the sunset. BUT – as happens so often in this crazy little 21st century, especially to the GOP – there are “vigilante fact checkers” out there, who are only too happy to call you out if you turn out to be an opportunistic hypocrite.

And so it is that we learned, yesterday, that Joe Wilson, who was so righteously enflamed over the notion that illegal immigrants might benefit from the current healthcare reform bill, broke with the rules of Congressional decorum and protocol and yelled out that the President was a liar. Well, as we used to say in the old neighborhood “takes one to know one.”

Here’s the skinny on that from OpenCongress.org:

On Wednesday night, Rep. Joe Wilson , shouted “You lie!” at President Obama when he said that the healthcare bill would not cover illegal immigrants. “The supporters of the government takeover of healthcare and liberals who want to give healthcare to illegals are using my opposition as an excuse to distract from the critical questions being raised about this poorly conceived plan,” Wilson said the next day in a campaign fundraising video.

However, in 2003, Wilson voted to provide federal funds for illegal immigrants’ healthcare. The vote came on the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003 (MMA), which contained Sec. 1011 authorizing $250,000 annually between 2003 and 2008 for government reimbursements to hospitals who provide treatment for uninsured illegal immigrants. The program has been extended through 2009 and there is currently a bipartisan bill in Congress to make it permanent.

It’s highly unlikely that Rep. Wilson merely forgot about the MMA or that, over time, he lost his original soft-heartedness for illegal immigrants. This particular bill had one of the most epically contentious and scandalous histories in recent legislative memory.

did you get that last paragraph? the most scandalous contentious legislation recent history! do ya think their was some lobbyists involved?
boo LOUD IGNORANT MOUTHS!

[Overseas]

12. That is the question. The Right systematically took control of most of our media.

Details of the right's campaign of a few decades now to move the national dialog way off to the right are well described in "What Liberal Media?" by Eric Alterman. www.whatliberalmedia.com

We had a lot more media companies operating independently in 1980, but now they are conglomerated into about 5 mega-corporations in right wing hands. http://www.corporations.org/media/

Right wing liars lie all the time now. With the confidence that their lies will not be challenged in the main broadcast media. Even "Pull the Plug on Grandma" Chuck Grassley was pretending to be ready to cooperate with our president while making inflammatory statements he knew were lies.

The Right was probably further emboldened by the way our corporate media had 10 pro-war guests for every anti-war guest during the lead up to the massively counter-productive falsely-promoted war on Iraq and even as it was continued.

One great first step toward reducing right wing power to dominate our national dialog would be to repeal corporate personhood, so giant corporations (more powerful than any of us individual citizens and many owned by foreign governments) will not be granted the same freedom of speech as natural individual citizens.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/fascism-coming-to-a-court_b_226256.html

[Jersey Devil]

11. No - Never, ever ask a question you are not 100% sure of the answer to

Sure, chances are the reporter had a Cadillac health policy, but what if, for some reason, he did not?