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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:49 PM
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The "nazi" accusations are all about racism
from the perspective of the bigots referring to President Obama with one of the worst political slurs outside of the n-word.

And I firmly believe that these closet racists throw around the term nazi as a proxy for what they really want to say and are thinking in their hearts.

I wish we would see this issue addressed in the mass media, but we won't. They'll continue giving "equal time" to bigotry in this era of Fox News. If there were any sense of decency or fairness left in the media, then they wouldn't give one iota of time to the racist hate mongers to continue their spew, unless it is to point it out and publicly condemn it. And this is yet another argument against the media being left leaning. I don't even think it's centrist leaning. It's leaning to whatever side it can flog to create the most social instability in our country.

Just because the haters don't come wearing a white hood and burning a cross doesn't mean that they aren't racist to the core.

I'm sick of their racist sloganeering. I'm sick of the media's coverage and coddling of them. But most of all, I'm sick and tired of the democrats lying down and just taking it when we should be fighting back as hard or harder than them.

If the right gets back in to power, they'll implement their regressive and backward social policy as quickly as they can. And they'll use the ugliest and most polarizing rhetoric to whip their true believers into a frenzy that will literally rival the most evil of lynch mobs with modern technology and ultra-lethal weapons at their disposal.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:57 PM
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1. Now they are playing the victim
I'm happy to say that way down south in this very red state, the birthers, deathers, and other knuckleheads have been getting their asses kicked pretty hard in LTTE in local papers in Louisiana and Mississippi. The knuckledraggers response? Who? Us? Their basic response, just because we are racists is no reason to call us Patriots racists.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:00 PM
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2. People use pejorative terms
when they are secretly fearful of their own latent tendencies.

Irony is lost on these people. As surely as the Depression-weakened people of Germany snapped right into line under the Nazis, the teabaggers and town hall screamers have unquestioningly handed themselves over to Big Insurance/Medical/Pharma, cowed and corralled by fear. They are sheeple.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:02 PM
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3. The republikkkans were looking for another N word
and that's the first convenient one they found... even though it makes no sense at all
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:09 PM
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5. That's what I started thinking today, too
after reading some of the thoughtful posts on DU from the weekend. And seeing some of the signs held by people at the D.C. protest cemented that these people are brutal racists.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:04 PM
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4. How about...
...when Shrub was referred to as a Nazi for 8 years?

I hate the use of that phrase because NOTHING that we are doing or have done rises to that level of compare. I hated when it was used (as well as Hitler comparisons) against Bush and even more when done against someone that I love and respect.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:12 PM
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7. You know and I both know that the Shrub nazi name calling didn't rise
to the theme of an public attack such that the right is formenting.

It remained just that - calling him a stupid name. And I don't think anyone took it seriously. But I am still firmly convinced that the right is using the term as a stand in for a racial slur -- and what they really want to be able to say.

If they keep getting traction and building up thier confidence, maybe they will start saying what they really mean.



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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:21 PM
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9. Your Paranoia...
...about the right is well earned - they are a bunch of assholes. And MANY of them may be using this as a code word.

However, to attach motive is presumptuous.

When they do start using the word that you seem to think that they are referring to - we will be in total agreement OR if they used words that were NOT used against previous administrations.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:56 PM
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13. The nazi imagery and accusations were mostly on obscure blogs not on TV.
Glenn Beck spews the most bizarre conspiracy theories that would be relegated to the 9/11 forum here on DU.

Mainstream Democrats never bought into any of the extreme conspiracy theories about Bush and condemned them (even the ones that turned out to be correct).
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Carl Skan Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:10 PM
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6. You act as if the Nazi comparison is anything but a cliche.
When you can't debate the issues, call them Nazis.

It wasn't racist when they called Hillary Hitlery in the 90s.

The Bush/Hitler comparisons here weren't racist.

It's just immature.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:15 PM
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8. But the tone is different, now. It's not just the word
but the way it is used. Many slurs mean little without context.

And the context in this instance is around whipping up hatred around the President and casting him as the "other." Why do you think 99.999% of the people that make up the hate movement are white?

Anyone that stands in defense of referring to President Obama as a nazi make me sick. And using examples of how others were called nazi without any kind of media traction like the right is getting is a only fig leaf.
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Carl Skan Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:26 PM
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11. The only thing that changes is everything stays the same.
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:28 PM by Carl Skan
The tone was different every time it came up. You’ve evidently taken it more personally this time and thus it seems to be worse.

"Why do you think 99.999% of the people that make up the hate movement are white?"

Because they’re conservatives who are “99.999%” white any way and there aren't any black people do to it because “99.999%” of them voted for Obama?

"Anyone that stands in defense of referring to President Obama as a nazi make me sick. And using examples of how others were called nazi without any kind of media traction like the right is getting is a only fig leaf."

I sure hope you aren’t confusing my dismissal of the #1 most used political slur of political trolls with defending it.

I’m commenting on the way your post illustrates the general nature of political debate in the age of the Internet. Both liberals and conservative are blind to the past and ignorant of how they’re really just two sides of the same coin throwing the same insults at each other.

You are falling right into that trap with this attempt to claim that one of the most cliched political slurs in history somehow has a new meaning.

edit:broken quote formating
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:22 PM
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10. And don't they see the absurdity
Nazis believed in white superiority. So how could a black man be one?
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:49 PM
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12. That's true - With so many right wingers that call themseles "Dr. PhD so and so"
You would think they would be smarter.

:)

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