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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:32 PM
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Why are people freaking out about Czars??
Seriously, the first Czars were appointed by Ronald Reagan and were expanded under every Republican president since, and NOW they're freaking out about czars?

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:35 PM
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1. It's all about inciting the stoopid morans fear.
It was OK then when American fascism was in its infancy, but now they can use the reference to the old Soviet Union and incite peoples fears.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:44 PM
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13. Of course, the Soviet Union never had a "czar"
and, in fact, killed the last czar of "all the Russias".
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:16 PM
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23. Ah yes but the people protesting them didn't learn that
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:35 PM
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2. they're just looking for something to be
pissed off about.

czars is one of them furrin names so it cain't be good yaknow?

They don't know what they are, what they do, or anything about them. Or the fact that Reagan and bush had them in spades.

it's a stupid name (like "homeland security") and should be done away with. - that wouldn't stop their ignorant bitching, though, would it?

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:37 PM
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3. You see...they have the attention span of gnats.
Really stupid gnats.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:37 PM
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4. Two (disgusting) syllables
Glen. Beck.

The moron of the chalkboard decided to take Obama to task for something which, as you point out, was created by Republicans. Nixon was the first to come up with "czar", probably because czar was an all-powerful person and yet the czar reported directly to Tricky. If there was anything that was perfectly clear, it was that Tricky liked the fealty of powerful people.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:45 PM
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14. Even though he forgot about them when spelling "Oligarch"
:rofl:
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:30 PM
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25. Down with Oligarhy!!
:rofl:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:39 PM
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5. Well they were actually pretty mean guys
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 06:40 PM by tularetom
Ivsn the terrible for instance carried out pogroms of Jews and gypsies in 16th century Russia.

And subsequent czars were not much better.

I can understand why people would freak out about them.

I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:41 PM
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8. The title's name or the actual position and duty?
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:39 PM
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6. You know now that you mention it t, I always wondered Roid ben-it
Didn't remind me of Ivan the Terrible ,even though the Leech has been terrible at the vast number of government Executive jobs he's fu*ced up ,everyone.Why Czar?
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:40 PM
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7. Dubya had 35 of them to Obamas 32
Franklin Roosevelt 1933-1945 12 19
Harry Truman 1945-1953 6 6
Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961 1 1
Lyndon Johnson 1963-1969 3 3
Richard Nixon 1969-1974 3 5
Gerald Ford 1974-1977 1 1
Jimmy Carter 1977-1981 2 3
Ronald Reagan 1981-1989 1 1
George H. W. Bush 1989-1993 2 3
Bill Clinton 1993-2001 7 11
George W. Bush 2001-2009 35 46
Barack Obama 2009 32 35
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

Czars is a big thing 'cause it sounds foreign.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:41 PM
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9. They have to keep people angry & fearful so the logic & reason part of the brain
doesn't start to assert itself.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:41 PM
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10. They have the RW hate machine so worked up...
..and ready to boil over, They don't know what they're going to bitch about and why but damnit they're not going to take it anymore. The guy could have a salad and they would be screaming "forced vegitarianism!!!!!"

The question is, has any population (incl 1930's Germany) been so insanely blinded by propoganda. I think not.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:42 PM
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11. Czars
have have to be repubs. Democrats make lousy aristocrats. They tend to laugh while saying things like, "Let them eat cake!"
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:43 PM
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12. To the best of my knowledge (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong)...
I think the whole "czar" thing started under Nixon, when he first appointed his secretary of energy. I think it was William Simon. Anyway, the term "energy czar" surfaced somewhere or another, and Garry Trudeau brilliantly lampooned it in many editions of "Doonesbury."

"Czar" eventually became a common term for various cabinet members and/or policy advisers to the President.

The right is having a field day with the term now only because it dovetails nicely with all of their "socialism/communism/facism" fearmongering. Never mind that the real Czars predated most of that!
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:45 PM
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15. Thats what the magic decoder ring said to do for this week.
They have to follow the instructions.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:46 PM
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16. Because Obama intends to become a socialist nazi fascist communist dictator.
Just ask any teabagger.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:53 PM
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19. You forgot Muslin...
Except when they want to tell you how un-Christian that Christian church he went to for 20 years is...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:47 PM
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17. CZARS is just another codeword for the ditomasters to use on their pathetic fans
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:52 PM
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18. They only know what they have been told by Beck, Limbaugh, et al...
They don't know what fascism is... they don't know what socialism is... and they don't know what the Czars are... because it isn't prudent for them to know as long as they can be whipped to an angry froth for the common good of the... oh, wait...
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:53 PM
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20. because it's russian and fits into rw talking points. eom
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:54 PM
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21. Was Reagan a black muslin kenyan commie fascist?
No. So what is your point then?
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:57 PM
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22. It's wisest not to try and understand their logic or it potentially ...
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 07:02 PM by GivePeaceAchance
can make a person crazy in itself. We just have to do our best to disprove their nonsense regularly with facts and video footage and then, just leave them to stew in their irrationality.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:26 PM
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24. Because whatever the hateradio jockhole says is to
be rabid dog on ..that's how the brainwashed go.

It doesn't matter what it's about..the underlying thing is they want Obama gone in 2012.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:42 PM
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26. This week's bogeyman.
I like the people who are against czars because it's "too much like the Soviet Union". Hey, morons... Czars out, THEN the Soviet Union comes in.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 08:11 PM
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27. Cause that's what they do. They don't know what the hell they're protesting
half the time.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:22 AM
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28. They HAVE to have something to complain about
and since no one has recently added a pool table to River City...
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:26 AM
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29. C'est le freak du jour.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 09:27 AM by lunatica
Today is the turn of the Commie pinko Czar. Forget that the Czar title is of the Emperors of old Russia who the Commie Pinko's executed when they became the Soviet Union. That is so not important when you're on a daily outrage roll. Who needs no stinken facts?!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:31 AM
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30. republic czars ok....democrat czars not ok.....eom
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:38 AM
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31. Because Glenn Beck told them to freak out about "Czars" eom
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:52 AM
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32. I'm much more bothered by that damned "homeland" word
created by the terror machine of the last administration.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:52 AM
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33. Because now there is a Dem president using the term.
Anything to tie him and the administration to things 'foreign' and 'undemocratic'. :eyes:
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:03 AM
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34. Because all their braincells are belong to Beck!
and the almighty Glenn said so. So let it be written, so let it be done.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:00 PM
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35. Because they're stupid.
n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:36 PM
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36. It's a Russian name
with a past. I don't think we should use it either.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:38 PM
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37. Except that Reagan was the one that really started using it, and Bush used it and they didn't care
then.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 04:58 PM
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44. Even more reason to abandon the name.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:01 PM
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38. What's all this I hear about Obama's Scars?
I mean, maybe he had an appendectomy, or fell off his bicycle when he was a little boy. Or maybe he was attacked by a herd of wild right-wingers who pummeled him with tea bags and said terrible things about his parents, and his wife, and his little girls. A thing like that can leave big scars! Or it might be the ghosts of scars that were left on the backs of the black people whose bodies broke building this country. Maybe you mean those kind of scars. But I've seen him in action, and I haven't seen any sign that he's going to let a little thing like a few dents and dings stop him from being the best leader we've seen in a long, long time, so I don't under...

What? Czars? Oh, that's different.

(insert tag line here)
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:08 PM
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39. My son just texted me asking about the "White Czar of Russia"
Is that related somehow?

I'm assuming he's studying Peter the Great in Social Studies.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:11 PM
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40. Wait til they draw the conclusion that Czar, Kaiser and Caesar
are one and the same....

:scared:
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:20 PM
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41. BREAKING: Obama renames Czars to "Top Super-Patriots"
That should eliminate all the concern... :eyes:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:40 PM
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42. It feeds the notion that gov't's becoming undemocratic, unaccountable, & authoritarian...
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 03:42 PM by burning rain
under Obama and the "DemonRats."
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 04:48 PM
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43. The Russian czars repressed the bolsheviks and favored the rich!
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