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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 04:59 PM
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Obama: Health Reform = Better Wages
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/09/obama_health_reform_better_wages.php

Obama: Health Reform = Better Wages
Chris Good


At his speech to workers at the GM plant in Warren, Ohio today, President Obama gave an argument for health reform that sounds pretty good: getting paid more. From the White House transcript:

Think about it. If you're a member of the union right now, you're spending all your time negotiating about health care. You need to be spending some time negotiating about wages -- but you can't do it -- (applause) -- but I want to make sure that you understand - you've got to understand Fritz's position here. He's trying to build this company back up. And if health care costs are going up 30 percent or 20 percent every year, it's very tough for him. So we all have an interest in reforming the health care system so that the cost for employers don't go up; that means the cost for you don't go up, and that means you can actually start bringing home a little more take-home pay. That's what this is all about if you've already got health insurance. (Applause.)
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 05:06 PM
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1. This is the argument he has to make more. So the idiots out there can understand.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 05:07 PM
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2. I was denied a raise once only because my health insurance..
cost went up. My boss didn't even try and claim that I didn't deserve it for my work. Actually it was everyones health insurance that went up and they couldn't afford any raises.
Shortly after that I jumped ship to a competitor. It wasn't a year later they had to sell out.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 05:11 PM
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4. Potential healthcare costs discourage hiring of older workers where insurance is required. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 05:10 PM
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3. Damn straight. Sing it 'Bam! nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:27 AM
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5. This frame should be getting a whole of attention from us......
but of course, the thread sinks! :eyes:
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 AM
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6. Excellent point K&R nt.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:57 AM
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7. "if health care costs are going up 30 percent or 20 percent every year, it's very tough for him. "
As health care costs have gone up by double digits. it's been very tough.

Fritz wanted to take his family to the see the ocean- and have saltwater taffy. But he couldn't, because United Health jacked his premiums.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM
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8. You'd think by now ...
that Obama would know the difference between health care and health insurance. Is he retarded?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:14 PM
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9. Yes, more take home money!
More fun less worry.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:58 PM
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10. that all depends on what "reform" means
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