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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:00 PM
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Went to visit my uncle this evening, and we began to connect the dots
Just last month here in Georgia, a white man followed a black woman with a crying child through a WalMart store. He threatened to shut the child up if the woman didn't. The man followed up by slapping the child several times in the face. The baby was less than 2 years old. The man was white and the woman and her child were black.

Last week, also here in Georgia, a large white man viciously attacked and severely beat a black woman. The story is on the Greatest page. While stomping her in the face, he let out a barrage of vicious and hateful names, such as "nigger" and "bitch". The incident happened on Sept. 9 but did not make the news until today.

While driving over to my uncle's, I had radio on the local black radio talk station. I found out that the charges against the scum have been seriously reduced to THREE MISDEMEANORS, and the disgusting pig is now out on bail.

My uncle and I are of the opinion that these are not isolated incidents. We wondered how much and often it is happening elsewhere in the U.S.

It seems the racists have finally snapped out of their shock and are projecting their hate and frustration with Obama onto other blacks - in these instances black women. In the presence of their children even.

And they are acting their hate out.

How soon before someone gets killed?

Maybe I'm overreacting. I sure hope so.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:06 PM
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1. No you are not over reacting
at all.

That will only increase in the coming years and many an inner racist has come out.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:11 PM
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2. One sided race war.
What I am wondering is what happens when the other side fights back?

I wonder if this is what they want.


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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:15 PM
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23. The other side will fight back
these racist thugs pick on those they deem as weak, they don't go toe to toe with some one who will kick their ass.

It is a matter of time.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:12 PM
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3. what is wrong with these people?
i just don't get that mentality. it's disgusting. sickening.
:mad:
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:14 PM
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4. I don't think you are overreacting.
Are you a member of Southern Poverty Law Center? They keep track of racist incidents. If you have connected the dots, maybe you should contact them.

For all I know, they are keeping track of these things already.

There have been far too many incidents all over the country to dismiss your concerns, my concerns, and the concerns of those who have to keep track of threats to Obama.

Also, I remember the success the SPLC has had against Metzger and those stormfront idiots. Maybe it is time that SPLC goes after the right wing haters on television and radio. Maybe they need to target some of the hate websites.

My brother gives quite a bit of money to SPLC. They are in his will. I will mention it to him, too.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM
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7. thanks for the info
I'm going to contact them tomorrow.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:17 PM
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5. I fear you are right... a return to the bad ole days....
How do we stop this?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:27 PM
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6. I'm seriously thinking of arming myself
however, it appears that these "men" prefer to pick on small women with children.

Luckily I don't match their profile.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 PM
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10. It would really help if the judicial system stood up to this onslaught
Hate crime charges, throw the book at perpetrators to send a message that it will not be tolerated.
Since most judges in this country have been appointed by Repubs, don't hold your breath.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:41 PM
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8. no...not an over reaction.
You can feel it growing. The hate...and worse, the self righteousness of it. It is frightening and for the most part, this country is sublimating the fear of it and under reacting.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:42 PM
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9. I've heard several musings today
about the possibility of another Civil War :(
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:48 PM
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13. Now, that too is scary. Very scary.
I am glad I moved from the scary georgia to the scary Arkansas..ha! But, at least here, I live far into the boonies. And I am armed...just in case and with the hope that I never need to be armed.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 PM
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11. how many are already dead? you assume that if some white bubba
had killed some black woman in some southern town that we would have even heard about it. i doubt it. especially if that black woman happened to be homeless, drug addicted or a prostitute. i have no doubt whatsoever that there are already people dead.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:45 PM
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12. and connect the dots to all the hate Kayne is suffereing from...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:48 PM
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14. ....
:wtf:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:49 PM
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15. What a valuable contribution. n/t
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:52 PM
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16. Kanye being rude and ignorant at an awards show is
exactly the same as seriously assaulting someone while yelling racial epithets.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:01 PM
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18. Don't be an
idiot.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:02 PM
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19. Kayne West deserves every bit of hate he is getting.... and then some
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:31 AM
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40. I think that definitely is a part of it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:58 PM
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17. For this to happen once is one times too many.
The authorities need to crack down and have the punishment fit the crime.

Fucking cowards need to be in jail and think about for a long time.
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:06 PM
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20. I don't know if the man slapped the child because Obama won
could be because he's an idiotic father; a bit of a leap if you ask me; but is he a monster? Yes.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:14 PM
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22. what the fuck was "I" thinking?
I've witnessed hundreds of crazy old white people verbally attack, threaten and abuse Obama and his family -- all in the name of "opposing socialism, marxism, ism-ism," you name it -- and I have the absolute nerve to make the leap that these crazy white men are attacking young black mothers and their children solely because they are monsters. With no catalyst in sight.

I really need to get a clue.

Or buy a vowel.
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:57 PM
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33. Did the man mention Obama or was involved in protests?
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:58 PM by Indigent
I don't know. There is no connection other than speculating that because some people have been very racist against Obama in the protests, it follows that a man not linked to the protests hit a black woman because Obama is President. Maybe he was racist, period.

Colin Powell just said we should stop seeing everything in black and white. I'd take that advice.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:09 PM
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35. do yourself a favor -
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 10:10 PM by CatWoman
read thru the AJC blogs and acquaint yourself with the mindset of these bottom feeders.

You know, there's a reason why the governor and both senators are republicans.

During the governor's swearing in ceremony, his supporters celebrating by shooting their guns in the air. This is the same guy who dealt with our severe drought by praying for rain. He was a big hit among the faithful. Wer'e talking about people who still don't know they lost the Civil War.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/

Colin Powell also said that Saddam was going to pelt us with chemical agents from drones in the air (among other things).

No thanks -- you take his advice.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:10 PM
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21. I think you're on to something. I couldn't figure out why the man at the
Cracker barrel got so physical. I would expect a jerk like that to be satisfied with some choice obscene language.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:17 PM
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25. when you think back to lynchings, it will dawn on you
if the local gang of vermin had an issue with one black person, and couldn't get to him, it would kill or beat a proxy.

They didn't care -- as long as the substitute was black.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:17 PM
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24. I think a whole load of them reached critical mass on one thing:
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 09:19 PM by calimary
Months have gone by and it's finally dawned on them that this whole "there's a black man in the White House and - GASP! - he's NOT the butler!!!!" business actually WASN'T some bad dream they'll be waking up from just any ol' minute now. I think the Obama Administration has gone on just long enough for them to start realizing that, and discovering how much they deep-down hate it. They probably didn't think he'd win, didn't think he'd stay, didn't think he'd live this long, and didn't think he'd even try to get anything accomplished.

It was the recent Maureen Dowd column called "Boy, Oh, Boy" in which the statement was made that "For two centuries, the South has feared a takeover by blacks or the feds. In Obama, they have both."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html

She's completely correct. He's here to stay and they're now coming to grips with the fact of that. And they're stuck with him, like it or not. And they DON'T like it, now that they're facing the reality that's finally sunk in through their thick, twisted, shrunken, denial-filled skulls. No, they weren't dreaming. They're wide awake and their worst nightmare is walking across the White House lawn from Marine One AND BEING SALUTED in file footage every night on TV. And it's driving them MAD!!! And they're getting desperate and starting to act out, bigtime.

To me, as a mom, it just looks like one big fat spoiled-brat temper tantrum. Oh, and did somebody say - "SORE LOSERMAN!!!"? That's part of it, too. Just a bunch of spoiled brats who act out when they don't get their way. And because there are no adverse consequences or punishment or impactful derision or shunning or significant public shaming for doing so, they're only encouraged and emboldened to keep doing it, only longer and louder. There's no incentive to back off. Besides, they're REWARDED with many multiples of those "15-minutes of fame" because their ilk is out there on TV every frickin' HOUR. Their bad behavior is being REWARDED.

It's just so upside-down!!!!!!!! Hey, tea-baggers - would you raise your children to act out like this when they don't get their way? Sadly, they probably do. For them it's somehow morphed into some twisted version of "Freedom of Speech" that they're somehow divinely entitled to. It's nothing but spoiled-brat SHITTY behavior to this mom.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:19 PM
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26. good post, CM
:hi:

:applause:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:07 PM
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34. Well, I'm pretty well convinced this is a big part of it.
This stars-n-bars contingent has hatred of minorities bred deep into its collective bone marrow - over many generations. You don't loosen yourself easily from such bonds, especially those forged with the glue of deep, frenzied, borderline hysterical - AND UNBRIDLED - emotion. It's like throwing gasoline on a fire to stir up the public's emotions about an issue. The more you get them worked up, the easier they are to manipulate because when you're in the midst of apoplexy, the first thing you think about is NOT getting a grip on yourself and thinking objectively or impartially, and growing up a little. And while they're busy working up a good frothing-of-the-mouth, there's NO ONE, not the media, not the critics, not a reasonable one in their own midst, who will stand up and say - HEY GUYS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DIAL IT BACK! YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT OFF THE DEEP END!!!! No one is saying that to this rabble. Quite the contrary - all the mob gets day after day after day is exhortation to go farther and get louder and meaner and lower and shittier. And don't forget he's takin' yer GUNS!!!! (And one guess as to what kind of flames THAT will stoke, for Pete's sake!) There isn't a SINGLE voice among them pleading for cooler heads to prevail, or for anyone to act like the grown-ups they purportedly are.

I think they figured deep-down - okay, vote for the black guy, fine, fine. Have your fun and get it out of your system, you stupid liberals, but you'll see. This will all be just a temporary aberration and OUR side will just keep winning, reminiscent of those commercials for that disaster clean-up company that comes in to refurbish your house after flood or fire damage - "like it never even happened." Things'll just return to normal the way they're SUPPOSED to be and the way we're all used to having it and we'll all wake up and realize this was all just a bad dream.

Well, sorry, it did NOT work out that way. And I'm sure they all went into some sort of denial - like - "this CAN'T be happening, billy-joe-bob-bubba! Make it stop! It CAN'T be happening! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! PLEEEEEEZE GAWD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!" But God DID make it happen. THEIR God. THEIR undoubtedly lily-white, blue-eyed, King's English-speaking God. What a betrayal THAT is, 'eh? If you're a staunch, rigid Bible-thumper, imagine how THAT piece of the puzzle just won't fit, no matter how hard they pound on it or try to shave off some of the edges to force it to fit the way they want it to.

And some of them probably went into denial after Barack was inaugurated, because they spent most of the time between Election Night and Inauguration Day pretending it just hadn't happened, wasn't happening, wouldn't be happening, this was all some horrible mistake, some bad dream they're surely gonna wake up from, just any ol' minute now! I know, for example, how I felt when bush stole the first one and I just was so numb and in disbelief and felt such deep unexplained dread for what might come because this little shit and all the assholes he was bringing in with him - was gonna take power. I didn't even know why I was so filled with trepidation. None of us could guess what that frickin' beast would unleash. But I know what it's like even to briefly consider trying to talk yourself into believing it really didn't happen, and you'd turn around and find out that the world HADN'T gone mad, and your country HADN'T lost its collective mind and voted this shithead into office, and we'd all turn around and it'd be Al Gore safely and securely installed behind the Resolute desk. And it was not to be. Coming to grips with that harsher-than-harsh reality wasn't easy for me.

So I suspect it was for these people, too. They just didn't want to believe that their worst nightmare had happened. So some of them probably took the denier's way out and pretended it wasn't happening and they'd turn around and be relieved to find they'd just imagined all this, and they'd wake up to find john mccain set up in the Oval Office and sarah camped outside his door like things were supposed to end up.

But they didn't. That - that - "OTHER," that - that - "THING." That alien - that guy with the suspicious dark skin - who doesn't look like me and his wife doesn't look like my wife and his kids don't look like my kids and all those people he hangs with and has assembled around him aren't MY people or MY kind. This CAN'T be reality. Can it?

With the coverage any American president is going to get, it eventually dawned on these people that their worst nightmare was actually true - there was no john mccain in the White House - it was THAT CREATURE FROM THE BLACK - well - BLACK EVERTHING! FROM THE BLACK BLACKNESS! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I seriously suspect that these people are now acting out because they've realized their greatest dread actually did happen and they're wide awake and he's still there in bush/cheney/mccain's White House - why, isn't that why they call it "The White House" to begin with, miz-daisy-mae-june-jooooolah? And they CANNOT STAND this, and they're certainly not going to abide it. They want it gone. Taken away. Nullified. Banished. Made to disappear. Sent out to the cornfield. ANYTHING!!!

And THAT hasn't happened either. He's still there. And there isn't a thing they can do about it except to hope that somehow they can vote him out in three years - if they can stand it that long. They're stuck in their own worst nightmares. And the longer they stay stuck, the worse they're gonna get. Louder, more beastly, more extremist, more hateful, more venomous, maybe even murderous.

I fear for the rest of us. Because at age 56, this is the most dreadful behavior I have EVER seen. And I'd bet money that this is what's under their vile, racist skin.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:19 PM
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27. This is why we, the sane 70%,
blacks, whites, and others, young & old, who understand what King Glenn & the rest of Hate Radio are up to, need to do something NOW. I am discouraged at how many DUers don't realize that the gun-waving at town halls fits together with this violence. My fear is that we are so weak, squeamish, accomodating, that the fight will be lost before we even realize it's happening.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:30 PM
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28. I thought they had asked the DOJ to consider charging the man
that beat the army officer in the presence of her child with hate crimes.

To have dropped the charges to 3 misdemeanors is disgusting.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:35 PM
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29. local black leaders went to see the town's prosecutor today
I think there was some sort of hearing, as they met with the young woman also.

There's an effort to have her appear (the woman who was beaten) on Lorraine Jacques-White's show tomorrow morning (http://www.waok.com/pages/13514.php).

I believe the NAACP met with them too.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:39 PM
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30. The US Attorney should be ashamed.
Has Obama appointed someone new to your state/district or is it a Bush hold over (like most other states)?

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:42 PM
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31. Sally Quillian Yates, Acting United States Attorney
since she is acting, I can assume she is a hold over.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:50 PM
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32. That would be my guess too.
Holder said his main focus would be civil rights - where the fuck is he and why are we stuck with bush drones.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:28 PM
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36. The latest article at CNN (from 5 hours ago) states the FBI is investigating
and the assailant has been charged with a felony.

The FBI has "initiated an investigation in the matter to determine if a civil rights violation occurred," the agency said in a statement.

Because the alleged incident happened in full view of Hill's 7-year-old daughter, the Clayton County district attorney's office added a felony charge of cruelty to children.

" was visibly upset the night of the attack," according to Capt. James Callaway of the Morrow Police Department, who said he was on the scene shortly after the alleged attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/16/cracker.barrel.beating/


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:36 PM
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38. The judge dropped the charges to misdemeanors
but the District Attorney is reviewing the video and the reports to try to determine what they can charge him with and present the evidence to the grand jury.

A judge dropped a felony child cruelty charge against Troy D. West Jr. He was released from the Clayton County jail Friday -- two days after being arrested for striking Tashawnea Hill in front of her 7-year-old daughter.

District Attorney Tracy Graham Lawson said she may file felony charges against West. We're reviewing the police reports and talking to witnesses to determine whether felony charges should be presented to the grand jury," Lawson said Wednesday.

West, 47, is charged with battery, disorderly conduct and cruelty to children -- all misdemeanors.

Clayton Solicitor General Tasha Mosley, who prosecutes misdemeanor charges, said she sent the case to the district attorney because West should face aggravated assault charges.

"A hand or a foot can be used as a deadly weapon," Mosley said. "You can kill somebody or cause bodily injury with a hand."

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/13032/update-on-the-racist-beatdown-of-tasha-hill-at-georgia-cracker-barrel-by-troy-dale-west
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:14 PM
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37. It's not their hatred of Obama. They're projecting their hate of blacks on him, and now...
...the acting out of racism at Teabaggings is implying consent to act out on others.


I was afraid this would begin to happen.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 10:09 AM
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39. Obama's election has unleashed an undercurrent of racism in this country . . .
that many denied existed, but which has been festering for decades . . . there are still people who consider anyone not white to be somehow inferior, and seeing a black man in the White House basically has sent them over the edge . . . listen to some of the so-called 9/12 demonstrators, and look at some of the disgraceful signs they're carrying . . . it's so bad that many, if not most, school districts allowed parents to opt their students out of watching an address directed to them by the President of the United States . . .

I don't know where this is all heading, but I fear for Obama's safety, and that of his family . . .
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