I love how the wealthy religious right ignore this portion of the

[ej510]

bible. Or the wealthy who claim to be holy.

The poor Many Jewish religious leaders assumed that poor people were religiously inferior ? that God wasn't blessing them because they weren't living right.But Luke showed that Jesus went out of his way to remind everyone that he had a message for the poor: "The Lord's Spirit has come to me, because he has chosen me to tell the good news to the poor" (Luke 4:18).

[ej510]

1. Another portion.

On another occasion, "Jesus looked at his disciples and said: God will bless you people who are poor" (Luke 6:20). What would a wealthy man think of that?The rich Jesus included both the poor and the wealthy in his work. But his message to the rich had a different focus: "You rich people are in for trouble," he said (verse 24). But Luke reported that Jesus Christ didn't criticize the rich because they had money. It was their attitude that was most important. Jesus warned the rich to trust in God, not in wealth (Luke 12:15-21)."You cannot be the slave of two masters.... You cannot serve God and money" (Luke 16:13). "It's terribly hard for rich people to get into God's kingdom" (Luke 18:24).

[ej510]

2. Another portion

A wealthy man could be disturbed by such words. But he would see near the end of the report that God can save even a rich man. The cost? A complete change in his attitude toward money.Luke had heard about, perhaps even interviewed, a wealthy tax collector named Zacchaeus, who told Jesus he would give half his money to the poor. Jesus was pleased. "Today you and your family have been saved, because you are a true son of Abraham" (Luke 19:9).Women Jewish teachers of that time usually considered women to be inferior. But Luke learned that Jesus treated women as individuals worthy of individual attention. Jesus recognized their faith and their feelings.

[Buzz Clik]

3. Are you aware of this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=214

I'm thinking it may be a more appropriate forum.

[ej510]

4. No, because I should have added remarks about corporations, and the insurance industry.

They are all tied in together. Religious organizations are receiving that insurance money.

[napi21]

5. I like the Rich man through the eye of a neddle" quote better!

They REALLY all ignore that one!

[ej510]

6. The right is full of hypocrites. As matter of fact I will stop calling the right or conservative,

because they are neither. They are wrong and are the total opposite of conservative.

[ej510]

7. We have republican trolls on this site, because someone gave my thread a negative rep.

[HillWilliam]

15. I've been calling them self-servative for a few years now

and a few folks have picked it up. You're correct: they're neither right nor conservative. They only live to get what THEY want RIGHT NOW and they don't give a damn who they have to step on to get it.

[cliffordu]

8. ...And just remember, kids, that Jesus kicked the money lenders out of the

temple - not the three card monte players, the druggies, commies or the prostitutes.

Just sayin'

:shrug:


I just recc'ed this back UP to zero....

[noel711]

9. Cliff, there's more to the story about the moneylenders....

most folks interprete it to be: 'No money or selling in the church.'
Yeah, right.. but back to the story..

It's deeper than mere buying and selling:
the temple at the time of Jesus was corrupt.
Temple taxes filled the coffers - all Jewish men had to pay..
but it was the sacrificial sin system that riled Jesus up.

To be considered right with God, you had to make an animal sacrifice.
You couldn't bring one of your own lambs, bulls or doves,
they might be 'blemished,' and thus unfit.

The temple allowed sellers of suitable animals for proper sacrifice.
And Jews from other nations had to make sacrifice in the temple,
no other site was suitable.
So they came with their local coinage, but had to exchange their money
at an exchange table (money 'lenders') for the temple shekel,
so they could purchase an animal and make sacrifice.

The poor could not afford the huge price, and thus poor people
were shut out of the sin management system.
The poor were thus 'unrighteous.'
That's was fired Jesus up.
Jesus was NOT a capitalist at all.
His stance was what signed his death certificate:
he criticized the systems that were set up to enrich
the wealthy leadership, and shut out the undesireables.

The gospel of Luke is indeed the gospel of the poor,
and of women... but the so-called 'christian' right
don't like that.

They oughta read Matthew 25: 31-46....

[trudyco]

11. And this is what the insurance companies are - the money changers. nt

[cliffordu]

12. Riiiight - it's Moneychangers, not money lenders, right??

[Dappleganger]

10. Funny, my bible says...

"pull yourselves up by your blessed bootstraps."

:sarcasm:

[and-justice-for-all]

13. They're hypocrites, did you expect otherwise? nt

[TrogL]

14. Welcome to Prosperity Gospel (aka Word Faith)

You no longer give to the poor. Now you give to the rich.

[ej510]

16. These people are anti-Jesus they are the reverse robinhood they rob from the poor and give to the

rich.

[Clio the Leo]

17. The scripture we are studying for Sunday School this week is.....

.... 2 Corinthians 7-9. Which contians the famous passage, "Now this I say, he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully."

Just before this, chapter 8 quotes ANOTHER passage from the Bible which reads, at this present time your abundance being a supply for their need, so that their abundance also may become a supply for your need, that there may be equality; as it is written, "HE WHO gathered MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO MUCH, AND HE WHO gathered LITTLE HAD NO LACK."

Ironically, while I was studying this, MSNBC ran a story about how SOME are concerned that the President may be about to "unfairly tax the rich."

It was a very amusing moment to say the least.

[ej510]

19. These are the people Jesus was referring to when spoke about choosing between to Gods.

The wealthy in this country suffer from a me attitude.

[malletgirl02]

18. Calvinism

I think the reason that the wealthy religious right ignore this, is because there us a very nasty Calvinist strain in the US.

[ej510]

20. They believe the poor sinned more so their punishment

is poverty, and believe they are closer to God so they reap the benefits of wealth. It is insane.