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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:09 AM Original message |
I agree with Joe Sestak.....WH should not be shaping races. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why not just do away with primaries altogether if this is going to happen? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. I believe EVERY WH does the same thing...we just never hear |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. IMO I don't know about NY views on Patterson... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You can't really eliminate the promaries. What would you do |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 04:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I dislike Patterson. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. Bloomberg would be a vastly better choice. But let NYers decide. nt |
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rmp yellow (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. That Rudy would beat Patterson is irrelevant to me....because David would never beat Cuomo anyway |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. Perhaps the bigger story here is not the WH involvement, but its publicity. Probably a common |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Obama is NOT the titular leader of our party. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Squashing a good dem to support a republican is not good leadership |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. You certainly have the right to |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. that's a question of tactics vs principle. i don't defend it but i understand it. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Sestak will beat Toomey (the republican) in the general |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 04:30 AM Response to Original message |
7. It's the price you pay to a party switcher. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. So the WH should not support or campaign for any candidate in the primaries? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. This is exactly what is done on the local and state level. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. Obama is the Boss |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think it would be silly to assume |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. Yes and no |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R ....back up to +4 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. What Wellstone said.... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. And Rahm's strategies have worked so well up to now |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. it's bad when you force out a strong candidate, but patterson is a sure loser. record low approval. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. My point being that the party leaders should not be deciding for us. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. i think this kind of thing has always been done mad, what's new is that this got leaked. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. At DU we often decried when Rahm pushed candidates out of the races... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. i think it was because he pushed out true progressives for blue doggish\repuke types. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Did you read these sentences? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. no, to be honest i missed that. i'm just saying i believe in realpolitik |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. then someone else should and would win the primary. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Up to 4 several times...down to 2 and will go lower. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Thank you for posting this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Good comments. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is the biggest problem I have with Obama |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. Obama is the official head of the Democratic Party. He can do what he wants to ensure his agenda. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yes, he can. |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
35. I ESPECIALLY didn't appreciate Obama endorsing Bennet (DINO-CO) |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
36. I agree, Obama should stay out of all primary races- including NY and Pa. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. I like Patterson, but don't Presidents do this all the time? Why all the hubbub when Obama does it? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
39. Of course they should. POTUS is the leader of the party, whichever party |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Then we don't need to bother to support candidates or vote for them.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-22-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
41. This is essentially telling activists to sit down and be quiet. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. I completely agree. They're doing this too often and it's bad for state-level participation. nt |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
45. I support Sestak but disagree with him on this. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
46. +1 rec |
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