NYTimes/CBS Poll...President approval 56%, public option 65% favored

[Uzybone]

republican numbers across the board remain brutal. Especially on healthcare and partisanship.

http://documents.nytimes.com/new-york-times-cbs-news-poll-confusion-over-health-care-tepid-support-for-war#p=1

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/us/politics/25poll.html


NYTimes spin:

"President Obama is confronting declining support for his handling of the war in Afghanistan and an electorate confused and anxious about the proposed health care overhaul as he prepares for pivotal battles over both issues, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

But Mr. Obama is going into the fall having retained considerable political strength. At 56 percent, his job approval rating is down from earlier in the year but still reasonably strong at this point compared with recent presidents. More Americans are starting to credit his stimulus package with having helped to revive the economy. And Mr. Obama retains a decided advantage with the American public over Republicans on key issues, starting with health care."

[FrenchieCat]

1. One thing I'll say....the press know how to do a negative spin on this President's numbers

like nobody's business!

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. +1. (nt)

[iceman66]

16. Understatement of the year!

[Clio the Leo]

2. Plus, folks just flat-out like the man....

.... even when they dont agree with his policy decisions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8667658

[FrenchieCat]

3. That's cause he's not out there talking a lot of shit

like that last guy!

Although DUers often believe that Obama talking trash about the Republicans would help his case,
I don't really believe this theory has been proven.

[Clio the Leo]

5. And it never will be.

As I said a few days ago, I have no real desire for a WWF President. Neither do most of the American people, esp. the coveted middle.

I can get my cheap thrills from our crew at MSNBC. The President needs to stick to being the cream and keep rising above the fray.

[Phx_Dem]

4. Good to know people want public option, cuz we're gonna get one!

:7

[yellowcanine]

6. The Wilson outrage was a major negative for Republicans, It confirmed the view of many that the

Republicans are anti-Obama, not anti Obama policies. It may have made Wilson a hero of the wingnuts but it was a negative with independents and moderate Republicans. Bonerman blundered by not insisting that Wilson publicly apologize on the House floor.

[karynnj]

7. In addition to the President's numbers staying good, the public option number is amazing

The Republicans threw everything they had at it over the summer and they had a considerable amount of the media behind them, but there are still 65% behind it. The number in an earlier poll was 72% and that was before the Republican attacks. That's not a very big dent.

It is interesting that people are beginning to credit the stimulus for starting to revive the economy. It has been strange hearing the Republicans standing on their head to deny what is pretty obvious - and down right weird to here their concern about the unemployment number.

[robo50]

8. Given Insurance and Pharma lobbyists' lies, and teabagger fools and FOX

Obama is doing rather well, and the majority of the people in the USA know that insurance companies are ripping us off.

[Avalux]

9. After all the shit the Pukes pulled during August AND media complicity -

our President has a healthy majority approval and the public option is still alive and kicking.

Fantastic! :applause:

[BeyondGeography]

10. You gotta love the complete and utter bullshit spin coming out of the NYT on this

At 56 percent, Mr. Obama’s job approval rating is about par for a president at this point in a first term: Reagan had a 53 percent job approval rating, while Bill Clinton was at 43 percent. Still that is down from 68 percent last spring.

How many j-school teachers would tear you apart for writing two sentences like that, one having absolutely nothing to do with the other? Not comfortable with showing Obama to be more popular than Reagan and Clinton at this point in his term, they felt compelled to throw the honeymoon number in there, just to convey a sense of weakness and unpopularity that isn't there. Fuck them.

[Jennicut]

12. I like these #'s. Remember guys, Clinton's approval ratings were not as good as this in his first

year. Per Gallup in Sept. of 1993 he had #'s in the early 40's and we lost control of Congress. Obama's approval ratings are 10 points higher.

[rmp yellow]

14. That's bit of an exaggeration

You are correct that Clinton was in the 40's in September, 1993. But it wasn't "early 40's," but rather the mid/high 40's and mid 50's. Three Gallup polls were conducted in September of that year:

93 Sep 24-26 (56%)
93 Sep 13-15 (46%)
93 Sep 10-12 (47%)

You also seem to be comparing a NYT poll to a Gallup poll. That's presumably how you got the 10 points higher number.

[Jennicut]

15. Sorry...it was a composite of Clinton's polls #'s I was looking at on Huff Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/obama-poll-watch-may-2009_b_210029.html

In August and part of Sept. Clinton was in the low 40's but then he did go back up. But he dropped again soon after.

Obama is still doing better then Clinton at this time period. Hopefully, he does not drop down as low as Clinton did right before the 1994 midterms.

[Saboburns]

13. This just can't be true.

Why, I've read dozens of DU posts last month that President Obama was a stooge and the Public Option was killed by the White House.

Dinnit you??