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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:04 PM
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The case for a strong public option: forget bipartisanship

WHY THE PUBLIC OPTION ISN'T DEAD....

This NYT piece is ostensibly about Democratic divisions over the details of health care reform -- headline: "For Democrats, Cracks in a United Front" -- which isn't especially interesting. The article, however, actually raises some interesting angles.

Most notable is the new-found optimism on the left about the prospects for a more ambitious reform bill. It's largely a foregone conclusion that the Senate Finance Committee will wrap up this upcoming week, approving a bill that generates no (or almost no) GOP support, but fails to meet liberals' expectations. But as the legislation moves to the floor, progressive lawmakers and their allies "expect to be able to shape the final product more than they had hoped just weeks ago."

What's changed? Having the caucus return to 60 members doesn't hurt, but the NYT's Jackie Calmes point to two other angles.

One is the failure of Senator Max Baucus of Montana, a more conservative Democrat who heads the Finance Committee, to get any Republicans to support his draft legislation, after months of trying. That doomed President Obama's goal of bipartisan backing for a health care overhaul, and now leaves party liberals arguing for a distinctly Democratic health plan.

"One of the strongest arguments against a public option has been that the Republicans will never go for it," <Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)> said. "Well, the Baucus bill doesn't have a public option, and they're still not for it in any way, with the possible exception of Olympia Snowe," a moderate Republican senator from Maine, who has not ruled out supporting the overhaul that Mr. Obama is seeking.

The second development that has encouraged liberals is recent polling, including some done for The New York Times and CBS News in the last week, that gives Democrats a clear edge over Republicans as the party favored to deal with health care issues. The same polls show significant support for a public option despite months of criticism from Republicans, who describe it as a government takeover of health insurance.

Congressional Democrats of all stripes have become more upbeat since returning to work after the August recess.... The sense that something will become law has only strengthened the resolve of liberals, inside the Congress and out, to fight with intensity as Democrats write the legislation this fall.

Like Greg Sargent, I found that Schumer quote of particular interest. Max Baucus bent over backwards to offer Republicans an insurance-industry-friendly bill, filled with concessions and ideas that Republicans had already embraced. Every single GOP senator balked anyway. I'd hoped it was obvious beforehand, but this apparently sent quite a signal to the Democratic caucus -- there's no point in watering down the bill to get bipartisan support if the minority is going to slap their hand away anyway.

I'm also glad to see the polls are having an effect, as they should. We're talking about a provision that would save taxpayers money, lower the costs of reform, and enjoys strong support from the public -- including Republicans. After months of constant whining about the perils of a "government takeover," the public option enjoys broad approval across the country.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:11 PM
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1. Indeed. republicans insist on all or nothing - fine. Let them have nothing.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:54 PM
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2. Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO
Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO
By: Jane Hamsher Saturday September 26, 2009 11:17 am
please read this in it's entirety............
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/pelosi-says-fk-you-to-trumka-and-the-afl-cio/
snip;

It's notable that among the Change to Win unions, only the Teamsters came out against the Baucus bill. (Whoever sold Hoffa on ditching the public plan is no doubt talking fast and trying to explain why he is now being kicked in the face.)

Incoming AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has been outspoken in his insistence on the inclusion of a public option in any health reform bill, and has threatened to withhold support from Democrats who won't vote for it. Over the past week there was a lot of winking in reports that the White House was leaning on progressive groups to drop their support for the public option. It absolutely did happen, but the use of the word "groups" is probably misleading -- the organization they are talking about, the only one that matters, is the AFL-CIO.

Since other unions outside the AFL-CIO are working the yo-yo on the trigger, Trumka is the lone holdout. He's the mainstay, and there is tremendous pressure building within the AFL in response to arm twisting from the White House for him to cave. And if he falls, it's going to be difficult for the rest of the veal pen not to follow suit. So, he's being directly threatened.

The message is clear: "Get in line or we pay for your precious 'public option' by fucking you on health care benefits."

If Trumka suddenly starts singing the praises of triggers (even if they instantly "yo-yo" it back and insist he was misquoted), you'll know it worked.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:29 PM
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4.  I really , really hope this is wrong ,fly! But I fear that it may not be.
One of the teabag type loons cane to the office of a congressman friend of mine, a moderate Dem, with a loaded gun. We are living in dangerous times.I just feel sick about everything.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:41 PM
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5. it is not wrong!!..Hiya Saracrat!! ...eom
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:25 PM
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3. I say give them nothing which is what they give us, and BTW, WTF
did we do about Big Pharma? Can we redo that? Cus without it heathcare reform ain't worth beans!
We should get everything done we can right NOW, while we have the votes and the support.There won't be another chance.These lunatics are foaming at the mout. One of the loons went to one of our moderate dems local congressional office armed with a loaded gun.
We need to forget about the GOP and Obama needs to dump the bipartisan BS.
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Gwereeya Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:38 AM
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6. Reconcile Already!
You know, if the Administration is still seeking "bipartisanship," then they deserve to lose, as the GOP has made it crystalline that they want Obama and his programs shot down in flames!
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