"Crist predicts Carter-esque loss for Obama"

[iceman66]

MACKINAC ISLAND, Michigan (CNN) – Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said he thinks President Barack Obama could be in for an ousting from office similar to what happened to Democratic President Jimmy Carter after his first term.

"I think the people wanted a change," the Florida Republican said, speaking of the election of Obama in November while drawing similarities to events decades earlier.

"They wanted a change back in 1976. You remember? Richard Nixon had been president. That ended. Gerald Ford took over. The people decided they wanted a change. They got one-Jimmy Carter. Four years later, they took care of business-Ronald Reagan."

"It may happen again," Crist went on. "I believe that the people have seen that they wanted a change but not this much. Not this kind, and not this way. America is awake and we're coming back."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/26/crist-predicts-carter-esque-loss-for-obama/


Of course 'Charlie' conveniently ignores EVERY recent poll showing GOP leadership to be far, far less popular than President Obama!

What I find disturbing is that his statements seem to dovetail precisely with the themes being pushed hard by the corporate media - e.g., that the teabagger movement represents some mass uprising of mainstream Americans rather than a small but vocal minority that never supported Obama to begin with. The media would have you believe that the majority of Americans oppose health care reform and are turning against Obama on account of this 'socialism' when all of THEIR OWN polling data suggests quite the opposite!

Crist is now running for Senate in Florida and it sure would be nice to see him suffer his own "Carter-esque loss". Is that race at all competitive?

[BanzaiBonnie]

1. This is a set up

Leading to the theft of the next election by electronic voting.

We need to be on this NOW or we'll have another stolen election.

[iceman66]

5. That thought had crossed my mind.

Although it would have to be fairly close for them to be able to steal it.

The media is going to be working overtime the next 3+ years to make it as close an election as possible!

[DrToast]

17. Totally. Just like how President McCain stole the last one.

[tabatha]

21. They tried, but they failed.

The numbers were so overwhelming, that they could not cheat.

[Aramchek]

39. weren't you saying the same thing before the last election?

[SpiralHawk]

2. As long has Obama doesn't act like Commander AWOL Bush,

America will be just fine, Mr. Crist. So crawl back into your spin hole and shut your gob. We do not need to hear from Republicon FAIL freaks like you.

[fasttense]

3. I seriously doubt it. Unless there are some unreleased US hostages around.

Carter would have won if not for the hostage deals that Reagan had made with the Iran terrorists. His nickname, Raygun, was coined before he was ever elected. That tells you how far down in the polls the Republicons were before Raygun started making deals with terrorists.

[TankLV]

23. And the hostage rescue mission wouldn't have failed if OLLIE NORTH weren't IN CHARGE of it all

and didn't deliberately SABOTAGE the whole thing from the get go!!!

Don't EVER forget that.

[napi21]

4. He's babbeling to his nutball supporters. Right now, nobody

knows what will happen in 2012 nor who the players might be. So far, the RW doesn't have any Reagans that I've seen. I hated Reagans politics and we're still suffering from things he did, but he was a likable guy personally. haven't seen a current LIKABLE REPUB yet!!

[iceman66]

8. Even if there were one, s/he probably wouldn't make it past the primaries

As far as the GOP 'base' is concerned, the nuttier the better!

[opihimoimoi]

6. ".....and we're coming back."...??...back to what? more PUB RUIN?

The GOP thinks we got collective amnesia?

The Place is almost in ruins from Bushies 8 shit stained years...and they wanna return to GOP RULE?

[Captain Hilts]

7. In his dreams. Move along...nt

[jefferson_dem]

9. Obvious pander to nutjobby florida repug voters...

Dismiss.

[Joe Bacon]

10. Charlie, people who live in Log Cabins...

...shouldn't throw Molotov Cocktails!

[pnwmom]

11. Do you mean log closets? n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. +1

LOL.

[Ineeda]

20. sure would love that "secret" exposed conclusively. Anyone willing? n/t

[Thrill]

12. LOL. 8 months in office and idiots are talking about

him losing relection? Too funny. Guy hasn't even been in office one yr of a 4 yr term

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

13. BREAKING: Crist Predicts McCain Victory

So there!

[livetohike]

15. He has to speak this way because the GOP approval rating

is as low as it's ever been. He is one of the flailing cheerleaders trying to rally what's left of their party with false hopes and accusations.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Sorry, Charlie, there will be no grim-faced Barack wearing cardigans and pointing out our flaws

Might as well admit it, you're up against a giant this time.

[rasputin1952]

18. Crist is an idiot...

for one thing, bush destroyed the GOP; for another, they haven't got a candidate that could get past the veggie bin the local Safeway.

The only thing the RW has is a compliant media, that makes idiotic things like "tea parties" look like a groundswell movement. Inflated #'s of the "outraged" won't heal the damage the R controlled government has inflicted upon the people of this nation.

Change is coming, and if the jughead R's quit trying to toss monkey wrenches into the works, and D's just forget about "bipartisanship", the country will be far better off.

Main thing here is to outlaw touchscreen voting, it has been proven to be a serious aspect of fraud...far greater than any allegations, (unproven btw), that ACORN has been accused of.

[Cha]

35. If the gop didn't have a "compliant media" they'd

have to concentrate on coming up with something smarter than a rutabaga from the bin.

[rasputin1952]

38. I thought that's how they came up w/McCain...

and Palin was rhubarb...:evilgrin:

[Cha]

41. LOL!

Look where that got them:rofl:

[rasputin1952]

42. A really crappy salad?

:D

[ShadowLiberal]

19. Problem is there's 1 major difference, demographic changes

Carter may have been ousted in a landslide, but the fact is that there's a big difference between then and now, demographic changes and who they were favoring.

Right after Nixon got elected someone published a book called 'the emerging republican majority', saying that demographic changes were heavily favoring republican dominance for a few decades. Their prediction largely turned out to be correct, Carter only just barely won the election the first time 8 years after the book was published, so it's little surprise that he'd have a tough fight for reelection 4 years later.

Today however, right after George W. Bush got elected, someone published a book called 'the emerging democratic majority', saying that demographic changes favored democrats, and that Bush's weak performance among Hispanics showed that the GOP was in big trouble in the long run, especially when considering the fact that Bush was able to appeal to Hispanics better then most republicans. Obama also happened to win in a landslide, unlike Carter, which means he'll be more likely to have an easier time in 2012, especially with demographic changes over the next 4 years favoring his party.

[iceman66]

25. Except that,

to some extent, demographic changes will benefit the Republicans, at least in the short term.

There has been more population growth in the red Southern states than in the reliably-blue Northeast, so they will likely end up with more electoral votes after the 2010 census.

[goclark]

27. And the teabaggers and McCain are getting older

The 14 year old 's will be voting in the next election.

Don't think they will want a party with old ideas.

They will think of the Republicans as " Grandma's Political Party."

PS/ Maybe that's why 'Lil Michael Steele is going Hip Hop LOL

[BillDU]

22. BS

"It may happen again," Crist went on. "I believe that the people have seen that they wanted a change but not this much. Not this kind, and not this way. America is awake and we're coming back."

That's nonsense!
Even if it was true what is he suggesting?
We re-elect republicans and end up with no change at all?

[saltpoint]

24. It would be hard to find too many more politicians more ambitious and

self-important than Crist.

Why, he might even be thinking of himself as the GOP nominee in 2012.

Why, I'd almost bet on it.

[iceman66]

26. If not 2012 then certainly 2016,

when our candidate may not be as strong as Obama.

I doubt that a closet case like Charlie would make it past the primaries, although he would be a more formidable foe in a general election than someone like Palin.

[saltpoint]

28. Palin is setting herself for an enormous setback, IMO, at least if she thinks

she is the likely GOP nominee in 2012.

I think she has a very tough gauntlet to navigate, starting with her own colleagues in the Puke primaries. I think they're going to bulldoze her so fast she won't know what hit her. Not quite as fast as an aerial bullet that kills wolves, but pretty fast.

Crist would be a stronger candidate than Palin, definitely. God, I hope he's caught in some kind of finance malfeasance thing that could somehow eliminate him from contention. He's bad news.

[iceman66]

29. We could stop him in his tracks next year

with a serious, and well funded, challenger in the 2010 senate race. Does such a candidate presently exist?

As much as (most) of the power brokers in the Republican party know Palin would be a disaster, their 'base' just loves her and i would not be surprised at all if she ended up the nominee. For all intents and purposes, she has already started her campaign.

[saltpoint]

30. Agree -- Palin just seems to be off and running already. It's just that

I'm having a hard time envisioning her slopping through pig farms in Iowa in the weeks ahead of that state's caucus, jaw-flapping with farmers about ethanol.

Huckabee won Iowa last time, but only barely. Sam Brownback almost beat him. Huck never had much moeny and he never hd a chance in places like New Hampshire. He might have had a better chance in Florida, but finished behind others. Maybe he's found his stride or something and would be more competitive this time.

The last GOP opinion poll I read -- admittedly far too early in the game to be conclusive -- showed Huckabee ahead, then Romney, then Palin. Throwing Crist into the mix would probably yield a different result, but I don't know which of the three would lose support. Also Pawlenty could be a dark horse here, and rumor has it that Gingrich definitely considers himself presidential.

Well, who knows. My best hope is that all these Republicans claw the flesh off each others' bones.

[iceman66]

31. Republican leaders are very divided on Palin.

The 'old guard' like Bush Sr. oppose her because she is an incompetent idiot. On the other hand, the hardcore neocons like William Kristol want nothing more than a President Palin because they see her as being even more corruptible and easily manipulated than GWB. It is these people who are guiding her actions now and will be pushing her candidacy hard.

Of course if Huckabee runs, he and Palin might neutralize each other by splitting the American Taliban vote.

[saltpoint]

32. I think you're right -- if both Palin and Huckabee run they will be competing

for many of the same votes and it's likely to get real nasty real quick.

Which will be a lot of fun to watch.

[polichick]

33. Crist isn't fit to kiss President Carter's ass. nt

[Drunken Irishman]

34. Don't your approval ratings need to be in the 30s for that, Crist?

Pres. Obama's approval rating, today, is above 50% in nearly every poll released.

How does that even lead to a Carter-esque loss for Obama?

:eyes:

[Dappleganger]

36. The GOP hates Charlie Crist down here.

He's in for a very rude awakening when he runs for senator.

[Aramchek]

37. too bad, Florida. Elections can't be stolen using 1 state any longer

You do realize that Obama won North frickin' Carolina in the last election, don't you?

[Hansel]

40. This sounds completely desperate.

It's like they are throwing absolutely everything at him now because they know that their reign of terror over this country is completely coming to an end. The are hanging on by a thread and they know it. The real change hasn't even taken place yet and they know that when it does, they're done.

There is nothing these fools fear more than Obama's changes being put in place. But it has nothing to do with them being bad for the country and everything to do with it being bad for Republicans.

Reminds me of the Knight on the bridge in the Monte Python's Holy Grail. It's but a scratch. Come on you chicken!

[Arkana]

43. Shut the hell up, Governor Loompa.

No one cares what you think.

[Sheltiemama]

44. And I predict an embarrassing scandal for Crist.