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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:22 AM
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Begalia: "Bet on health care reform passing"
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 08:29 AM by Clio the Leo
Hey, fellow progressives, I have a secret for you: We’re winning on health care.


As a battle-scarred veteran of President Bill Clinton’s health care fight, I know there are many dangers, toils and snares ahead. But I am optimistic that President Barack Obama will be able to sign into law a bill any fair-minded observer would call far-reaching, progressive health reform. Here’s why.

The right-wing shouting didn’t work
The conservative strategy of blowing up town hall meetings was must-see TV — as when conservatives shouted down a woman in a wheelchair. But the histrionics didn’t change any minds (Gallup shows support essentially unchanged before and after the August recess), and they didn’t change any votes. I

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The train keeps a-rollin’
All five committees involved have, for the first time in history, reported out bills to fundamentally reform our health care system. Previous House committee chairpersons in prior Congresses wouldn’t speak to one another, much less collaborate on three very similar bills, as the Energy and Commerce, Ways and Means and Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committees have. Very impressive and very encouraging.

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Democrats can go it alone
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How can I be optimistic that Democrats alone can reform health care? Because these aren’t your parents’ Democrats. The single biggest reason, I believe, that the Democrats lost in a landslide in 1994 was because they failed on health care. More important, congressional Democrats believe it. They know it is their rear ends on the line in 2010, not Obama’s.
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Still, even with the proverbial gun at their heads, Senate Democrats may find it nearly impossible to herd 60 cats — especially when one of them is Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), the longtime opponent of progressive health care reform. But they have a Plan B: passing health care with 50 votes through reconciliation. Sure it’s a crapshoot. Sure it will annoy the GOP. But what are they going to do: Vote against it? The truth is, reconciliation is an unusual vehicle but not unprecedented. The GOP used it to pass welfare reform and the Bush tax cuts. It was used to pass other health care bills, namely, the State Children’s Health Insurance Program and COBRA (Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act). And if faced with the choice between reconciliation or failure, it’s an easy call.


President Obama says we’re 80 percent of the way there. I know this: When my beloved Texas Longhorns have the ball on the opposing team’s 20-yard line, don’t bet against them. And don’t bet against the Democrats passing major health care reform legislation this year.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27632.html#ixzz0SPIG3PUx


The WH announcement that he'll be joining Michelle in Copenhagen this week says a lot. Unlike a week ago, he knows he's freer to leave home without having to be there to babysit the Dems a couple of weeks before the reconciliation deadline.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:27 AM
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1. I'm glad he is optimistic
I'll still believe it when I see it.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:28 AM
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2. Hope. We've got that...
K&R

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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:28 AM
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3. I hope...
that you're correct. This is a major staple for me, and I do have my eyes on this. :hurts:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:34 AM
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4. A reform will pass. What will be in this reform is the issue!!
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 08:36 AM by Mass
If the Dems cannot pass a reform, they do not deserve to lead. The issue is whether the reform will be enough to actually help people.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:48 AM
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6. I fully expect that we here at DU....
..... will spend the rest of President Obama's terms debating how successful this bill will be. There will be two camps, some who think that anything is an improvement, another camp that will never be satisfied or think the bill has any merit.

You'll notice that what Dems have been saying on TV recently .... all the way down to the Big Dawg himself .... has not been about what might happen if no bill is passed, because they know there's no chance of that, but how prepare the American public for the changes we're about to undergo.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:46 AM
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16. how about a third camp..those who have fought for legitimate health care reform to help all American
Citizens ..with improvement for all and merit for real reform..for doing what is right..for all the people..after all it is our government..and it is our taxes and those who represent us are our employees..i think it is our responsibility to scream loud and clear for what is right..not what gets them elected and puts money in their pockets.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:35 AM
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9. Yup, it's what reform. But, do we the people deserve to lead?
If Dems don't / can't lead, certainly it is not Repubs who deserve to lead!

Let's get that straight.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:39 AM
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10. Was there ever a doubt?
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:46 AM
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15. Sadly, plenty. /nt
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alc Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:44 AM
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5. "Bet on health care reform passing" - no chance
the only bills being considered are "health insurance" reform.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 09:01 AM
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7. Thanks Joe Lieberman.
Sigh. I didn't vote for him, but my parents did.
I think it will be passed...reconciliation is the final option.
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Leo The Cleo Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:00 AM
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8. On Target
I am quite sure Begala, an insider, knows what he is talking about. It is good to believe.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:58 AM
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11. I thought the same thing about his decision re Copenhagen. No way would he leave
if he was losing on hcr. PLUS, the PR if Chicago is chosen will be tremendous...despite what the nattering nabobs are saying...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:00 AM
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12. And on the flip side he prob. wouldn't put his name on the line.....
... and fly to Copenhagen (cue the "Obama is wasting tax payer money for his own self-interest" meme) if he also didn't think Chicago's chances were VERY good.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:22 AM
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13. On MJ today, they were saying he had it already "wired."
Making the appearance just prolly sealed the deal. I imagine the Danes would be VERY happy to have our president visit their capital. It will prolly lift the Danish government's profile, too...

It's all good.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:32 AM
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14. K&R. I believe he's right.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 12:58 PM
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17. Gibbs was asked today why Obama is now going to Copenhagen-if he thinks HCR
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 12:59 PM by jenmito
is in better shape than it was when he said he wouldn't be able to go there because he has to work on HCR. Gibbs said he thinks HCR IS in better shape than when he made that statement.
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Gwereeya Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:39 PM
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18. Yes.
But in what form?
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