Newsmax columnist: Military coup "to resolve the 'Obama problem' " is not "unrealistic" (MM)

[jefferson_dem]

Newsmax columnist: Military coup "to resolve the 'Obama problem' " is not "unrealistic"
September 29, 2009 5:57 pm ET by Terry Krepel

From John L. Perry's September 29 Newsmax column:

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it.

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Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.

Unthinkable? Then think up an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem. Just don't shrug and say, "We can always worry about that later."

In the 2008 election, that was the wistful, self-indulgent, indifferent reliance on abnegation of personal responsibility that has sunk the nation into this morass.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909290042

[WCGreen]

1. These people are out of their minds...

[Brother Buzz]

18. It's just mental masturbation....

designed to satiate the lunatic fringe. Nothing more, nothing less.

[WCGreen]

26. until some nut case pulls a trigger....

[Brother Buzz]

28. Well, then there's that....

:scared:

[Faryn Balyncd]

35. It is NOT masturbation. They are INTENTIONALLY attempting to make a FASCIST COUP a respectable idea.

They are running this treasonous idea up the flagpole to see if the 30% hardcore Republicans salute.

[Brother Buzz]

39. They are attempting to sow the seed of dissent, no disputing that, but....

attempting to make a Fascist coup a respectable idea is a stretch.

If the idea of a military coup isn't mental masturbation then it's nothing but a wet dream.

WCGreen's suggestion of a single nut pulling a trigger remains a genuine possibility, and that worries me.

[rmp yellow]

2. They did it to Kennedy when he didn't go along with the Bay of Pigs

They even set up Oswald so as to make it seem as if Cuba had done it. Remember the impostor in the Cuban/Russian embassy?



Yeah. That chubby guy was supposed to be Oswald stepping out of the Cuban embassy (or Russian, not sure) in Mexico City, plotting with the commies to kill JFK. Or so said the CIA.

When the right-wing wants to get rid of a non-cooperative President, they will go to great lengths to achieve their goal.

Obama's plan undermine the greedy credit card companies, health insurance, etc. If he decides against sending troops to Afghanistan, the level of anger in the right will increase even further. The Secret Service should be on the lookout on high alert at all times.

[CakeGrrl]

3. Will someone PLEASE step up and edumcate everyone as to

whether the President is a dangerous radical-left Marxist or a DLC Corporatist sellout tool?

It's confusin'.

:crazy:

[rmp yellow]

7. A DLC'er is like a commie to the right-wing

They have a very low bar when it comes to being a radical lefty.

[NYC Democrat]

11. well according to the teabaggers he is both a Fascist and a Marxist

so I guess he can be a dangerous radical-left Marxist and a DLC Corporatist at the same time.

[SIMPLYB1980]

4. Nuts.

[kestrel91316]

5. "....Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state....."

Wow. Somebody has been doing a lot of acid.......

[jenmito]

15. Yet that "somebody" still has a show every night...

Glenn Beck is pushing this BS constantly.

[Crosseyed Jesus]

25. Lysergic 25 would be an improvement

LSD would be too far of a venture for the conservative brain dead monkeys that broadcast from their crispy grey matter.
Assertions such as the vomit coming from the conservative Reich, are a result of smoking ones feces, and an over indulgence of coprophilia.

[Arugula Latte]

6. Treason.

Hope the Secret Service pays him a visit.

[denverbill]

8. Burning down the house of Newsmax' editor not 'unrealistic' either.

I could certainly understand some patriotic citizen or military officer bursting into John Perry's home, gunning down everyone inside with an AK-47 and burning it to a cinder.

And if he really thinks a coup would be bloodless, he'd better think again.

[Pab Sungenis]

9. They tried it with Roosevelt

but Smedley Butler blew the whistle. Read "The Plot To Seize The White House."

[kestrel91316]

10. Dear Mr. Perry: If a coup happens, I will now lay it right at your feet.

And guess what? I'll take up arms, too.

Trouble is, I'll be coming for you.

[fascisthunter]

12. lol...coockoo

[SeattleGirl]

13. This scares me more than the hate spewing

Stuff I've read. The person positing this reminds me of Ted Bundy. Speaks in complete sentences and may SEEM to be rational to those around him (and no, I DON'T think he's rational), but inside he's cold, calculating, and insane.

[Flash Bazbo]

14. Why stop with a coup? Why not make every election subject to military approval?

Where does that slippery slope end?

[rucky]

16. Is that the "final solution" to the "Obama problem"?

[Cali_Democrat]

17. But the reich wingers talked about spreading democracy in the middle east....

and they won't even respect our free elections? :shrug:

[Uncle Joe]

19. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Newsmax; you brainwashing, traitorous bastards.

You stupid mother*%$#@ there is no such thing as "civilized military coup," lying sacks of shit. John Perry you are one worthless whore, unlike your boy Bush, Obama actually won the election and he did so with a sizable majority.

"Patriotic" generals and flag officers don't usurp the Constitution or their Commander in Chief, however I imagine patriotic police officers putting Perry in prison for advocating treason especially during a time of war.

If you don't like President Obama's policies; whatever they are, live by the Constitution and beat him in an election you coward piece of shit!

[CitizenLeft]

20. "...or with those who control him"

:wtf:

According to the photos and vids I've seen of our "military," and their reaction to this president, this person is insane. Is he assuming that ALL military leadership - and the rank and file too - would just stand down and allow this to happen??? I wonder how he can type on his keyboard with his head stuck so far up his ass.

[Kievan Rus]

21. God, I bet the Secret Service is getting sick of this shit

The stoopid...it burns!

[HopeOverFear]

40. I know that's right

[intheflow]

22. John Perry's bio from the Newsmax link on MediaMatters:

John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents, is a regular columnist for Newsmax.com. Read John Perry's columns here.

Really? A prize-winning editor? It doesn't say what the prize was or who awarded it, but judging by his "logic" I'm guessing it was a door prize at Karl Rove's birthday party.

Edited to add: Yikes! I figured the two repuke presidents he served under for Dubya and GHDubya. then I saw his photo and how old he was and I thought maybe Nixon and Reagan. But no! He served under Johnson and Carter! WTF?! Methinks he's been living in Florida too long, he's been corrupted by their political propaganda. Either that or it's Alzheimer's.

[Mz Pip]

23. Military coups

are never 'civilized.' That flies in the face of what our democracy is about.

Get a grip wing nits. Obama is not a socialist or a Marxist or a Communist. You will all have your chance again in 2012. that's how it works here.

[vaberella]

24. Hmmm...from mediamatters? I'll remember this. n/t

[Doremus]

31. No, from Newsmax.

[vaberella]

36. Gotcha. Thanks. n/t

[Skip Intro]

27. I cannot find the words. Just shaking my head. Wtf? nt

[Odin2005]

29. This is TREASON!

:grr:

[onenote]

46. not as defined by the constitution

advocating the overthrow of the government historically has been viewed as a sedition, and prosecuted under odious laws like the Smith Act that were passed so that they could be used against labor unions and communists and that, thankfully, have been largely ignored for the past forty or more years

[NYC Democrat]

30. uhhh correct me if I'm wrong but isn't openly advocating a military Coup to overthrow the U.S.

Government considered Treason?

[Flash Bazbo]

38. He dances around advocacy so he can cover his ass...

Perry writes:

"Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it."

http://www.newsmax.com/john_perry/obama_military_coup/2009/09/29/266012.html

So he is like Glenn Beck. He isn't saying "a military coup would not be such a bad thing." He is asking "would a military coup be such a bad thing?"

[onenote]

45. no its potentially a violation of the smith act, an odious piece of legislation

that has been dormant for nearly 50 years and that no progressive should ever want to see used.

[calimary]

32. All I can say is W.T.F.

W. T. F. !!!

For the love of God...

And to think, the Department of Homeland Security backed off that report on "right"-wing domestic terrorism that was expected to be on the rise in the next few years because some of these same people started harrumphing loudly in phony indignation. Hell, they ARE domestic terrorists!!!

[RepublicanElephant]

33. mike malloy discussing this now.

he suggests watching the movie "seven days in may", an excellent movie with burt lancaster as a treacherous general plotting a coup against the president.

http://2005.progressivetalk1150.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st

[Faryn Balyncd]

34. The GOP's flirtation with fascism is becoming overt.

[tishaLA]

37. Explains the neocon celebration of Honduras' coup

It gives them cover.

[Monk06]

41. Who's next to advocate a military coup the New York Times or the Washington Post

It's about time these guys were hauled in fron
of the judge to explain how predicting a coup
and favoring a coup, is somehow not advocating
it.

If it walks like a duck and quakes like a luck
then it's pretty much a duck.

[snake in the grass]

42. I just cannot hear it anymore.

This constant whining and fear-mongering about the impending Marxist takeover. I mean, hell, there are Klingons in Star Fleet now. Can't these people come out from under their rocks?

Stupid question, I know.

[LynnTheDem]

43. For fuck's sake.

What the fuck. I mean, REALLY, what the fuck.


Could some other nation PLEASE take our stupid people???!! We have waaaay beyond our fucking quota of them.

[BreweryYardRat]

44. So Perry's not just a traitor, he's an IGNORANT traitor to boot.

Look at this quote:

Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.

Uh, "accountability-challenged?" Last I recall, the "nation-builders" we had in Iraq -- some of whom were "military-trained" -- had serious problems accounting for quite a bit the money they were supposedly using for reconstruction.