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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:10 AM
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Obama's reluctance...
in so many areas may come from the fact that he knows all of his actions are being judged through racial glasses, even by those of us who wish him well. I think that he is aware of this more than the general public understands that as the first half-black president he cannot ever seem too "black". It is a sad commentary but I think true. But I think that this would pertain to any "outlier" who won the Oval Office: a woman, another Catholic, or a Jew among the most obvious possibilities.
Hillary would have faced some of the same pressures and her sex would have made others.
So I think that President Obama should be given support and encouragement and, when appropriate, admonishments as long as we also remember he is walking a tight-rope we whites can barely comprehend.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:18 AM
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1. Good post. K&R (my rec just offset some freeper's unrec).
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:19 AM
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2. bullshit
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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:38 AM
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3. Opinions can be..
or you simply don't like what I understand to be true. That's cool too.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:01 AM
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4. You're probably right
But he came in with such huge positives - 70% popularity rating - he could have done a Bush right there and claimed a strong mandate. Bush stole 2 elections and still swaggered around like he'd got 100% of the vote.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:17 AM
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5. I think it has more to do with the fact that
he thinks we liberals and every day folks wont support him if it is too radical. So, he plays the center line and we get wimpy little compromises that only make things slightly better.

How exactly have we shown him we have his back? Since he has been in office, the only protest you saw on the corporate media was the Tea Baggers and a handful being shot at in Pittsburgh.

Was there a huge march of liberals and middle class people after the Tea Bagging fools and racists were summoned to march in DC by the corporations?

What ever happened to the idea of a Sunday (Grandparents' Day) protest to follow the Tea Baggers? Several TV outlets brought it up. But nothing ever happened.

So, when are we going to march on Washington and stay there until we get what we need?

One day of protest ain't going to cut it. We need to live in DC for a month. A rotating group of 50,000 people for a month might finally get some news coverage. Just like Cindy Sheehan did outside the Crawford Texas.

So, how do we organize it?????
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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:36 AM
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6. Really wish....
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 08:38 AM by GTurck
I knew. You seem to agree with me and I agree with you. We on the left need to find a compelling way to let him know that we support him for his attempts and know he can always do more liberal things. But how to get people to scream and shout about that I just don't know. Weren't the media supposed to be part of that sort of thing?
Oh! yes; they are now amoral corporations who give us fair and balanced junk. Forget supportfrom them or even passing on support from us. And don't trust the polls to give anything but a limited snapshot of public sentiment. Remember Mark Twain said there are lies, damned lies and statistics. Polls are a form of statistic.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:50 AM
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7. No, I think it has to do with the fact that he and other democrats want to be re-elected.
To do that they must continue the REDISTRIBUTION of wealth from the middle class to the FILTHY RICH.

Obama is serving the corporate world. Nothing to date gives me the impression that ANY LEGISLATION will not continue to financially rape the middle class.

Health Insurance mandates? That's a big fat wet kiss to big insurance, nothing more unless there's a ROBUST PO. We all know that any public option will be watered down to please big insurance.

I don't see any method or leadership here on the part of President Obama UNLESS his final aim is to please his Ruling Masters on Wall Street. Plus renditions and summary executions via drone have been ramped-up from the Bush years. We are losing our civil liberties at a rate that would make Cheney envious. :(

This isn't R vs. D or Liberal vs. Conservative, it's Big Corporations vs. The Middle Class. :grr:

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:13 AM
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8. That will not happen without a plan that is actually
supported by the people. No one is going to stand up for a pig in a poke. For mandated purchase of products from companies that are almost universally reviled. The President says those companies deserve to profit as they do and I do not agree with him. His reform in all current forms discriminates against my family. So again, why would we spend thousands to go to DC to support that which will treat us unfairly? No, really. Why?
The more personality oriented voters seem to think others show support for whatever a politician wants, that we should 'support Obama' but the fact is he should support us, and if he did he'd have his legions behind him. He needs to lead for real or no one can follow. It is that simple.
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