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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:30 PM
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Dean = McGovern or Dean = Nixon?
It's a Trippi operation - the whole business - he ran the money but he was insulated, you'll have to find out how.

Infiltrating Kerry headquarters
Clark fliers
Telling NH voters they can't vote
Non-residents voting in Iowa
E-mail telling Dean supporters to disrupt Clark speech in ND
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:33 PM
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1. Dean = front runner. That makes him a target of slanderous accusations
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:37 PM
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2. Welcome to DU JPJones...
Take some friendly advice & don't stoop to thier level. We can win the fight without it.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:37 PM
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3. More info please
You mention a Dean e-mail telling supporters to disrupt Clark in ND. Can you back that? I ask because at the Florida Convention, they did just that. As Clark began his speech, a low chant quickly picked up volume outside the ballroom doors. It was the Dean Camp chanting... louder and louder until you had to strain to hear the general speak. All the while, Dean supporters (with Union shirts on) walked the aisle with Dean signs, looking people in the eye in what appeared to me to be a very intimidating way.

I thought it was just politics as general, albeit rude. Was it in fact, a directive?

I cannot believe Dean would do this. I think, no, I want to believe it's just a few rabid loyalists... so if you have proof, post it. Otherwise, you're just baiting, and that's not nice.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:38 PM
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4. Evidence?
Proof? Links?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:39 PM
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5. Evidence! You must be joking!
This is hardly the time or place for evidence!
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:41 PM
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6. LOL!
Indeed--- silly me! Let the smearing begin! :P
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:45 PM
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8. You want smearing, just go get one of the flyers...
from the Dean campaign at a Clark meeting.
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Printer70 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:52 PM
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11. "Smearing" not same as Pointing out Facts
Dean has a right to contrast his record as a Democrat versus Clark's history as a Republian. Further, Clark engages in hypocrisy by saying he'll not respond to attacks and demeaning attacks as done by "professional politicians", then attacking Dean's "integrity". I don't mind the attack, that happens, but don't lie and say you won't engage in it.
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:53 PM
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22. If you can prove Clark was a republican
I will denounce Clark, ask for a donation refund, become a dean supporter, give my refund to dean and support dean any way I can.

I await your reply.



And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:03 PM
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25. Waiting

And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:13 PM
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26. Waiting

And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:52 PM
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12. No really, evidence for that accusation?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:57 PM
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17. TRUTH IS SMEAR
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

No thanks. I'll vote for Dean instead.


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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:44 PM
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19. You make the most moronic posts
Do ANY of your posts make sense?
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:42 PM
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7. Dean=Truman
Ot at least Tom Harkin seems to think so.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:55 PM
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16. Careful there. Truman has some dark history from 1922
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:50 PM
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9. Govenor Dean = Dr. Howard Dean and
whatever politics Trippi played is minor compared to the demagoguery and lies of the snipping laggard campaigns. The laggard campaigns have told so many lies regarding Dean that they have ZILCH credibility with me.

And I'd like to see some links for your accusations, please.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:51 PM
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10. Poop
What crap. lol
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:55 PM
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15. I repeat, I have not turned in my Clark Card
BUT I am still waiting for the original poster to prove his accusation. He said the Dean camp is sending e-mails directing their supporters to disrupt Clark's speech in ND.

IF this is true, you need to back up your claim. Don't tell me you saw it on DU, or your cousin told you so, or even you remember seeing it somewhere.

Rule #1 for responsible posting:

If you can't back it up, then shut it up. You do so much harm to the PARTY by offending supporters with unfounded claims.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:44 PM
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20. For the love of eggplant
Thank you Wife for a little common sense. We owe you one.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:50 PM
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21. I read it on his blog.
You can find it on www.clark04.com.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:56 PM
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23. Here is the ARG link
Now, it's still hearsay, but it IS ARG. This is fairly compelling, troubling, and sad. Perhaps it was the two the Dean camp fired today? Let's hope so.

Here's the link.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/demtrack/

Thanks in_cog for the heads-up.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:53 PM
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13. Joe Trippi = Lee attwater
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:54 PM
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14. Dean = Next President of the United States
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:42 PM
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18. If I were a bush supporter...
...this foolishness would make me happy. But I'm not a bush supporter. I'm a loyal & patriotic American who is concerned that our nation is in trouble. So this makes me feel very unhappy. How easy it is for the enemy to invade like a virus, and take advantage of the high emotions, and divide us.Wake up, brothers and sisters.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:58 PM
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24. Dean= McGovern, Bush= Nixon. n/t
n/t
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:17 PM
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27. Locking...
Please do not post inflammatory messages.

Thanks,

DU Moderator
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