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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:31 PM
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Post Debate Spin THREAD #1
How will they spin it????????????????
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:32 PM
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1. Whine!
The questions all favored Kerry!
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:33 PM
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5. That's because * has screwed up foreign affairs so thoroughly
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:32 PM
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2. David Brooks says it does nothing
But then, David Brooks is a Bush whore.

If the best the Bush whores can say is that it was a tie, Kerry owned.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:38 PM
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21. "Bush* Holds His Own"
is what the librul media will report.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:47 PM
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37. Yes, excellent point.
Brooks realizes that no one would buy a "Bush won" spin, so he's doing the best damage control he can.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:32 PM
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3. Kerry kicked ass tonight...
Bush was incoherent... messy and repetitive...

If this is spun in any way against Kerry it will indicate just how whoreish the media have become.

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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:06 PM
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61. Never thought I'd see a chimp turn into a deer caught in the headlights
He must have eaten GM cornflakes in the morning.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:33 PM
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4. I don't see how they can.
Scrub got absolutely torched...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:34 PM
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6. Jeff Greenfield just couldn't bring himself to say Kerry won.
Motherfucker
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM
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10. David Frum just did the same on the Beeb. n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:36 PM
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14. Greenfield was funny, I will defer for a day or so
too chicken to give the debate to Kerry..
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:42 PM
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31. What utter horseshit from Greenfield...Pussy.
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:34 PM
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7. Tim Russert: No clear winner
Russert just said both candidates came out polished, prepared, and presented their ideas well. Let the spin begin....
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:37 PM
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16. That is such BS
Good grief!
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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24. Russert is such a whore! nt
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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27. No clear winner? bush spent the night looking like he was about to cry.
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GaryL Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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I HATE THIS LYING ASSHOLE!!!
Whew! That felt good.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:41 PM
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30. Russert is crazy, then
Did he really say that both "presented their ideas well?" Russert is delusional.

That is textbook spin. I would be ashamed to be that much of a whore, Tim.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:58 PM
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56. we need to hound Russert NOW
don't give him a chance to spin!!!!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM
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8. Scarborough on MSNBC:
George W. Bush lost his way.....
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM
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9. Scarbourough...or (however you spell it) Totally admits Kerry won
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM by Momof1
n/t
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM
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11. They'll call it a draw
Rediculous, I know, but what can you expect. That's how it'll evolve in the end. Bush is going to get major pity points.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:35 PM
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12. Yo Scarborough said KERRY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:36 PM
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13. Kristol on Fox:
Kerry did pretty well tonight.....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:37 PM
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15. Someone on CNN just accused * of smirking... and said Kerry looked poised
:)
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bhairava Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:37 PM
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17. I watched a split screen version on NBC(?)
That f*cking smirk and eye-rolling! I couldn't believe how petulant and classless Shrub was. It was difficult to watch. Kerry was alright but should have been more agressive towards the unprepared and oafish imp!
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:44 PM
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33. Split screens
I watched ABC, CBS, and NBC split screens. They all showed * in the forground, as if he was ahead of Kerry.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:37 PM
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18. Andrea Mitchell is totally full of shit said Kerry didn't explain his Iraq
policy.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:38 PM
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19. Congratulations, President Kerry. No one with a functioning brain
could prefer the wilting lunatic bush.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:38 PM
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20. Here's the spin: Bush lost coz he's a reg'ler guy. Lowering stds for Bush
They like pointing out how ordinary Bush is. Then when he doesn't vomit onstage in the next two debates---wallah!! Bush is the winner.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:38 PM
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22. Scar was the only one with balls
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:38 PM
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23. Whore McCain on CBS now
Bush did so poorly tonight. I know that I'm biased toward Kerry, but Bush seemed absolutely bamboozled.

If Kerry would have behaved as incoherently as Bush did tonight, then I would be freaking out right now about supporting him.

But, Kerry knocked it out of the park. Articulate and statesmanlike. Did you notice how Bush acted as if he was chomping at the bit and being all flustered? Kerry kept his cool. Kerry has the demeanor to bring the world to the table.

It will be interesting to see CBS' panel of undecided voters.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:45 PM
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35. What's McCain saying?
Whatever it is, I'm sure it's RNC-approved.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:53 PM
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50. Very RNC Talking point-esque
George Bush made his case. His stance is clear. yadda yadda yadda
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:59 PM
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57. Gotcha.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 10:00 PM by sangh0
"george bush* held his own..."

It's good news. It's the best they can do, and it's going to fail miserably
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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25. Little fucker Matthews and his girlfriend
...that blonde dried up right-wing ho on MSNBC. Still, Scarborough sets them straight:

Matthews: This reminds me of Reagan-Mondale, 1984. (little fucker, trying to spread some doubt)
Scarborough: No. Reagan was smart. Bush is dumb, we all know it, he's not winning the next debate.
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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28. LOL
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 09:40 PM by George W. Dunce
he got owned LOL he was clueless at points.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:39 PM
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26. CNN brought on 2 rightwing shrills and a couple of nay-sayers
:puke:
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:40 PM
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29. Andrea Mitchell (MSNBC)" Bush's reactions HURT him
he seemed impatient, he smikred while Kerry was calm and poised"
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:45 PM
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34. That was the same reaction as my boyfriend
He isn't as fanatical about Kerry as I am. But, he said Kerry came across as more statesman-like than Bush.

This was supposed to be a diplomatic debate between gentlemen. Bush was huffing and puffing like a spoiled child.

To bring the world to the table, you must be a dipolmat. Kerry has gravitas, Bush just has smirks and groans.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:44 PM
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Who is this blonde hag on MSNBC?
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 09:47 PM by makhno
What's her name? Her affiliation? She is shilling for Bush.
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:50 PM
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44. Ms. GOP Rugburn
Loves to sleep with Greedy Old Prikkks.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:44 PM
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32. Kerry effectively fought the flip-flop charge
IMO, Kerry was clear that while he did agree that Saddam was a threat, Bush* rushed into war and mishandled the peace. He also showed that his position has been consistent, that Saddam needed to be disarmed but that Bush* did it the wrong the way. He also pointed out the inconsistencies in Bush*'s foreign policy, such as allowing Iran and NK develop nuclear technology and developing smaller US nukes, and how that hurts anti-proliferation efforts, which Bush* agreed was the largest threat we face.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:48 PM
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38. Bush said Mollah for Mullahs. What an idiot
Oh fuck, here come the undecideds.

Yay!

44% said Kerry Won
26% said Bush won
30% said it was a tie

Kerry kicked Bush's ass!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:03 PM
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58. He was getting that deer-in-the-headlights look
God, I love that look!

And IMO, those #'s look great. There's nothing good for bush* there.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:47 PM
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36. Carlos Delgado is such an asshole..
I just sent him a nasty email but the webpage crashed.
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:48 PM
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39. Interviewing Wes Clark on CNN now
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:54 PM
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52. Rumsfield named Shinseki's successor one year ahead, cutting his
legs from under him - Wolfie was trying to say that kerry was wrong about him being forced out
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:48 PM
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40. Unbelievable that bush was so unprepared for how to physically conduct
himself. From the very first question his body language was horrible, looking down and shaking his head. Most of his reaction shots looked straight out of F9/11 with the pursed lips and bug eyes. The bush people seem to fuck up everything they do. If these dimwitted thugs get four more years, I might be packing my bags.
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:50 PM
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47. fuking tom broakdik
pure bush lovers, they go and smell hes fuking ass...
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:48 PM
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41. Clark is on CNN
Wolf is going on about some shit how "Isn't Kerry underminding the troops with his comments?" or some shit like that
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:49 PM
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42. MASSIVE win for Kerry
I watched every moment, folks, and though it wasn't a flawless performance for Kerry, Bush fell flat on his face.

BIG win for Kerry. By a VERY long shot.

If the corporate whore media spin this as anything less than a huge win for Kerry, then you will know that they are exactly that--corporate whores.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:49 PM
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43. Did Fox News just say Bush won hands down!?!?!?!
Holy crap, they don't even try anymore, why don't they just change their name to 'Chimp News'.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:06 PM
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63. No they didn't
In fact, the most amazing thing is that they were the most fair of all the cable news outlets in their post-debate talk.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:50 PM
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45. Judy Woodrift: No Home Run - No Grand Slam!
what debate was she watching!
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:52 PM
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49. Yeah, Kerry just bopped Bush over the head with the bat...
and knocked him silly! Kerry cleaned his clock...Kerry up 5-10 points in new polls, GUARANTEED!
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:50 PM
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46. Did Fox News just say Bush won hands down!?!?!?!
Holy crap, they don't even try anymore, why don't they just change their name to 'Chimp News'.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:50 PM
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48. Kerry won over the undecideds on CBS' panel!!
46% said kerry won
26% said Bush won
30% said it was a tie

Who had the Clearer plan for Iraq?
Kerry 51%
Bush 38%

Has your opinion of Kerry changed?
52% Improved
14% got worse
35% no change at all

Go, Kerry, Go!!!

:bounce:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:53 PM
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51. CNN is trying to entirely change what happened in the debate...
... through tracking of tremendously uninformed viewers.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:55 PM
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53. Now CNN is having problems with feed from Kerry campaign response?
As the feed from Karen Hughes is working fine.

How wonderful.
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Joe Turner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:56 PM
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54. Kerry Knocked Bush Out of the RING.
Wow, what a performance. Kerry YOU JUST ROCKED! Is there any question WHO is more qualified to be the next president of the United States?

He made Bush come off like the Bumbling, Confused, Over-Matched, Under-Qualified, "In Over the Head President" he is.

Kerry just picked up millions of voters in this debate.

Freepers have to be in a state of Depression. I'm talking about the ones that still have some connection to Reality.

GO JOHN KERRY!
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:57 PM
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55. I am watching the international news and they are not happy with chimp!
They are talking trash about bush !! and Kerry is the king in Europa.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:03 PM
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59. JUST KEEP CUTTING TO THAT BRAT FACE.ALONE ****
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:04 PM
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60. We kicked butt!
YAY!
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:06 PM
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62. I get more and more sick of John McCain
by the day
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