Kerry kicked Bush's ASS, and the media still gives Bush a free pass.

[mzmolly]

Imagine the tables were turned, they'd be writing Kerry off by now.

KERRY WON THIS DEBATE, HANDS DOWN! He kicked Bush's ass and the media is in full spin mode.

:grr:

As I said, were the tables reversed, Kerry would be in the proverbial grave.

[kwolf68]

1. Media on Full Court Press Now

Russert, Brokaw just finished up on Matthews Show by giving Bush praise. Amazing...They are such fools.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. Brokaw was fair. He did not "praise" Bush.

He said good things about Kerry too.

[SoCalDemocrat]

40. Do NOT WAIT, write the press NOW

Go to this link. Write a short positive piece. Then the site will mail it for you to the media centers of your choice. Get the editorials out there ASAP so they can make the morning papers and radio and TV broadcasts!

DU the heck out of them so all they have are floods of pro-Kerry reports!

http://www.democrats.org/media /

[muchacho]

2. fuck the press

the peoplke will speak

[Bleacher Creature]

3. Sorry in advance for the capital letters.

IT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR A SITTING PRESIDENT TO SIMPLY HOLD HIS OWN!!!!!


That felt better.

[tomfodw]

34. That was Bush's point in 2000

Granted, Gore was not the incumbent, but Bush treated him like he was.

Turnabout's fair play.

[Cha]

5. That's because they traitors to

OUR Country..and they need to be brought down like bush was tonight.

[xultar]

6. What did u expect? n/t

[HEFFA]

7. Why are you surprised by this?

You have to give them credit though....lying and misrepresenting the truth all the time really is "hard work."

[mzmolly]

15. I guess I had a wee bit o faith.

:(

I'm shocked.

[alcuno]

8. That's not what I'm hearing. Even Bill Kristol was complimenting Kerry.

The mainstream media is waiting for the polls. Already CBS and ABC have polled independents who clearly give it to Kerry.

[sangh0]

10. That's not what I'm hearing either, but then again

I don't get cable.

:shrug:

I watched it on PBS, and while Shields didn't enthuse over Kerry (as Kerry deserved), all David Brooks could manage was to say that bush* held his own.

[Stew225]

14. I don't get cable either. Oh, we have about

200 channels here, but I sure as hell don't "get it".

[mzmolly]

16. Bush didn't hold his own, he lost his ASS.

:hi:

They wouldn't give Kerry such grace.

[sangh0]

17. I kinda knew they wouldn't slobber over Kerry

and that they'd give bush* every break imaginable, but I don't think they're going to be able to sustain it. That would only feed into Kerry's argument that bush* is living in a fantasy world of spin and can't handle the facts. This is an argument they can't win, IMO

[central scrutinizer]

20. Even David "Kneepads" Brooks

called it "pretty even" on PBS afterwards. Translation: Bushco was petulant, inept, and whiny but I need a job so this is the best I can say. Damning with faint praise.

[SEpatriot]

9. Shilling for chimpy

Worst performance ever. They are giving him kudos for his closing statement - which he practiced 1039 times in the last five days. PLEASE!!:eyes:

[whalerider55]

11. the closing statement...

anyone else notice that *'s light was still green when he finished?
he shorted a number of questions, as well.
while there is a relationship between brevity and efficiency, there is also one between brevity and stupidity.

i know which side of the equation i think * ended up on.

whalerider55

[bigpathpaul]

12. Does anyone need further proof that reporting as we knew it is dead?

I'm flipping through the channels and hearing this crap--that a guy who can barely start or finish a sentence--"held his own!". Based on what f---ing criteria?

There can be no trusting any of these people.

[bigpathpaul]

13. It's like the commentators saw their kid do a really bad job in the

school play and can't bring themselves to admit it. Why did I think it would be any other way?

[mzmolly]

21. LOL. Your right, they looked like disapointed "parents"

I was dumbfounded.

[SEpatriot]

19. This just in....

Titanic "held its own" against iceberg.

Poland "held their own" against Germany in WWII.

[mzmolly]

29. ROTFLMAO !!!

:yourock:

[MI Cherie]

18. Was C-SPAN the only one to do split screen?

I flipped a couple of times, but had to go back to C-SPAN because of the split screen. The split screen showed how agitated Bush* was and how uncomfortable he looked. He was awkward and wasn't very sincere.

Did he only memorize a dozen statements? He kept repeating the same thing no matter what the question!

[carpetbagger]

30. No. George got punk'd by the Fox cameramen.

bye bye sock puppet.

ALL the networks had sock puppet go "boo hoo me need bullhorn and mass grave".

[Radio-Active]

31. I was watching ABC

and they had the split screen too

[blue neen]

35. That split screen was great on C-Span.

Bush looked impatient from the very start, like "let's just get this over with." John Kerry looked relaxed, just nodded his head thoughtfully.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

22. The Press are helping us.

Listen... we all can see that Kerry won in most people's minds. Are the press, the people who devote their lives to communications, really dumber than us? No.

They are smarter than us when it comes to these things. They know Kerry won. But they also know if they say that, then BushCo will pull out of the next debates; he'll have to admit running from a challenge after being shown up like that.

The Press are setting expectations through dishonest opinion reporting. Dishonest opinion reporting is 'spin.'

Who actually won the debate is an opinion, not a fact. A whole different kind of journalism rules the day.

[Sean Reynolds]

23. What the hell are you talking about Molly?

I'd say most media right now is saying Kerry won, a big difference from 4 years ago with Gore-Bush.

[mzmolly]

27. Reluctantly Sean. They HAVE to relent this time.

Missin' you buddy, how'z thingz?! :hi:

[bigpathpaul]

32. I must have flipped onto the same stations as Molly, cuz I heard the same.

But, I'm glad to hear that we're wrong.

[gordianot]

24. The press seems to be favoring Kerry.

I think most of what I heard is the press is stunned. I just heard Tweety use the "denial" word in reference to Bush.

[mzmolly]

28. They're in denial and they're clearly "unhappy" that the debate didn't

go their way :hi:

[complain jane]

25. For a few diehards I'm sure Bush could have shown up in full leather

harness with with ball gag and copulated with a barnyard animal on the stage and he'd still be declared the winner.

[rhite5]

26. Much of the print media had already written their stories

hours before the debate. Will they change them at all?

[DemBones DemBones]

38. They'd better. Any who don't should be called on it BY US!

We can help spin this FOR Kerry. The media trying to say that Bush* won are saying, "Who you gonna believe, us or your own lying eyes?"

Only idiots will believe someone else's spin of what they saw when it's this obvious.

[dogman]

33. In the next couple of days they will tell you B$$$ won.

They will all hear from Rove and have their talking points in order.

[Sparkly]

36. Some people have the job of saying Chimp won, no matter what

and some have the political um, responsibility (?) to say he won.

I don't think they can possibly spin it enough to matter, though.

[Erika]

41. Karen & Condi Are Crying.....

as their esteemed leader is shown as the incompetent he is and those he appointed.

[Lugnut]

37. John McCain on MSNBC

Just said he thought * won. hehehehehehehehehe

[immoderate]

39. Amazing! Scarborough on the debate

He said Bush ran out of material after 20 minutes. Clearly lost.

--IMM

[mzmolly]

42. Ya know Scarborough is an *honest* broker even though I disagree

with his politics. He's one of the few "shills" I agree with.