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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:47 PM
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the dc debate with braun, kucinich, and sharpton ?
i'm watching a repeat of the dc debate with braun, sharpton, and kucinich. i know the other candidates are not running in the primary there and that's why they didn't attend. but why do they have a place set aside for howard dean ? they also asked him a question when he wasn't even there which got people to laugh.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:49 PM
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1. Dean is the only other one on the primary ballot there.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:51 PM
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3. why is dean on the ballot there ?
i thought only kucinich, sharpton and braun were running there. the rest aren't because dc doesn't have delegates.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:32 AM
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8. Dean got on every possible voting platform
but the DNC asked the candidates not to participate in non-binding votes for some reason. Only Dean, Kucinich, Sharpton, and Braun snubbed the DNC over that request. Dean not showing up to the debate is regretable but understandable.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:49 AM
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10. yeah I understand
I think Kucinich will have a nice showing in DC :).
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:56 AM
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12. kucinich got lots of applause at the debate
he seemed to be the most popular. although all 3 seemed to be well liked.
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:35 AM
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13. that's because
Kucinich is popular! :)

TWL
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:40 AM
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14. You should have said electable
;)
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:53 AM
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16. that too!
:)

GO DENNIS!

TWL
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:13 PM
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19. "Dean not showing up to the debate is regretable but understandable."
Now I wonder if the DC residents who are rightfully screaming to be fully represented and given Statehood would agree with that statement. Maybe they would but can you explain why he missed it for my own curiosity?

Honestly I was kind of surprised by his skipping it and I didn't hear any reason given.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:37 PM
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20. Well, how's this...
You have to admit that there's less at stake for Kucinich, Sharpton, and Mosley-Braun in turning their attention from Iowa. In the meantime, Dean is being attacked by the Club for Growth in Iowa while he battles Gephardt for first place. Being put on the ballot in DC is largely a symbolic gesture, giving support to District residents' quest for statehood (over the objections of the party leadership) despite the lack of political primary motivation to do so. Indeed, those who pushed for changing the date of the nonbinding DC primary to the first in the nation acknowledged that it was largely a symbolic gesture to call attention to the fight for statehood.

So I'd say that "regrettable but understandable" is a fairly accurate description.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 02:10 AM
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26. Ok, one other question-
for anyone who has any idea, why in the world is the Dem party fighting DC's Statehood request?? I'd have thought certainly the Democratic Party would support Statehood for DC.

Criminy, it looks like I've missed a few things lately! Referring to this "Club for Growth". I saw a thread about it but never got around to reading it.
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:17 AM
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17. the rest aren't because
i thought only kucinich, sharpton and braun were running there. the rest aren't because dc doesn't have delegates.

I thought they didn't want to step on any Iowa or New Hampshire toes.
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White Mountain Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 11:51 PM
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2. Where's Howard ???
Dean envy!

Dean is such a natural man. Don't cha agree?
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:26 PM
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That depends.
What is the definition of a "natural man"?
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:26 PM
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22. That depends.
What is the definition of a "natural man"?
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:13 AM
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4. What are..
you watching the debate on? Is it on C-Span?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:21 AM
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5. yes, watching on cspan
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:23 AM
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6. Ok, thanks n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:25 AM
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7. will rerun at 12:20 am eastern
this will rerun again at around 12:20 am eastern time on cspan.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:36 AM
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9. Dean's the only one who has drapped himself in the Confederate
flag. Maybe the DC people are liberals.

There's a book out with a comic scene where Joe Trippi comes in to find Dean wearing the Confederate Battle Flag and informs him that they lost the war.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:54 AM
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11. Friendliest "debate" I've ever seen
Looked more like a couple of drinking buddies hanging out onstage than a debate between politicians. Very low pressure.
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 04:46 AM
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15. I thought it was one of the best debates. There was actually time
to answer questions. And most of the questions weren't moronic.
Watch and learn Ted Koppel.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:58 PM
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18. yes
It was a good debate. Also there was great debate a couple days ago with just Lieberman, Edwards and Kucinich, which was also very refreshing. Maybe Gephardt, Kerry, Dean and Clark should just drop out already so we can get more meaningful debates.
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 12:10 AM
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24. Maybe some people could drop off DU so we'd have more meaningful
threads. And less cattyness.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:37 PM
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28. sorry for the "cattyness"
My comment merely mirrors what has been posted many times about the three candidates who debated in DC. But maybe I should jsut drop off . . .
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:39 PM
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21. I'm hoping this is what we have to look forward to...
once the field clears out a little bit. Nine candidates on stage reduces everything to overly simplistic soundbite speeches rather than honest discussion of complex issues. No wonder most Americans don't know anything about the Dem candidates.
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:50 PM
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23. "Americans don't know anything about the Dem candidates."
Don't tell that to the pollwatchers! :)

TWL
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 02:06 AM
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25. and you don't think it has anything to do with the crappy formats
of these debates? These were some of the poorest debates as far as fairness and time to talk without a bell ,buzzer or talking head saying "time's up".

Nine is a lot but I think there could have been a much better job done of things. How many debates has it taken for Dennis to even get a shot at speaking?

There have been some better than others...

Koppel was the absolute worst but at least Dennis got to make a point of the shallowness and unfairness of it.
.....and I got to see Koppel speechless!!
:evilgrin:


Peace
DR
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 03:10 AM
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27. DR I still relive that moment!
I have the video of DK laying the smackdown on Koppel. The look on Koppel's face is great.

And guess what? The people agreed with Kucinich! Then the next day DU was full of poll and money posts again, oh well! :)

TWL
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