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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:39 AM
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An Apology to my Friends who back Dean/Kerry/Kucinich/Edwards etc
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 12:50 AM by Rowdyboy
An apology for the 186 posts of a thing that called itself "Clark Campaigner". It was tombstoned , finally, this evening.

For 186 posts, "Clark Campaigner" attacked decent supporters of the other candidates with hateful, abusive, obnoxious language. Frankly, I wanted to beat the living daylights out of it. It embarrassed all of us Clark supporters, men and women, to be falsely associated with such hate.

Many of you, long time posters and newbies alike were insulted by this poster and I hope you realize it does not represent people who want Wesley Clark as our nominee. We Clark supporters may be older than some, and even more centrist (in some cases) than some, but we're not belligerent assholes (at least most of us aren't).

Every campaign has its embarrassments. DU rules preclude us from openly calling people until they have been tombstoned and thats good. But please don't blame me for ridiculous attacks on your candidate that have been committed by an infiltrator.

If you'll grant me that much respect, I'll give you the same.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:49 AM
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1. np I didnt run in to this person though but thanks rowdy
I dont blame you for attacks, not your fault htis guy was a jerk.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:50 AM
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2. That was the second "Clark" supporter
I've had to put on Ignore in a week. :eyes:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. Its a bitch when you have to put people who claim to back your guy
on ignore....Its really sad that people would stoop so low.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:47 AM
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24. No kidding a crying stinking shame! Glad they are gone!! n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:51 AM
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3. That's two posts in one night from you that gave me a lift.
Thanks again, rowdyboy! :toast:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. Its time for the adults to start standing together...
:toast: Thanks, Burt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
39. kick n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:52 AM
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4. I didn't notice
You guys are mostly okay. Whatever this guy was doing, I guess I didn't pay attention. Thanks for your effort in reconciliation though, we know you didn't have to do it so it means all the more that you did.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:52 AM
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5. I wouldn't blame a candidate, his supporters or campaign
for what some anonymous DU poster says. All you need to log on here is an email address.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:53 AM
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7. you don't have to apologize
but thanks for it. these things happen every now and then.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:02 AM
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9. This poster made me feel slimey just because we shared the Clark avatar...
It was smart in that it chose its words carefully so it didn't get banned quickly, but it was 100% divisive. Finally it admitted it was a Reaganite,

All in all, it was a superior example of poisonous pond scum.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
37. The poster didn't *have* a Clark avatar
so much as he was abusing a Clark avatar.

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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. good point
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
45. kick n/t
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:02 AM
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10. YOU and others like you are the reason I fell in love with DU.
And you're the reason I'm staying. You represent your candidate well, but more than that - you make our party proud. Thanks, RB. :toast:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:03 AM
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11. I'm proud to say that
I beat the crap out of the guy on a couple of threads. I also alerted on him and then sent another alert to the mods just to thank them profusely for tombstoning him.

I don't know what he was doing on the Dean threads, but he was making Clark look bloody awful on the Clark threads.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #11
25. There's going to be more of this going on as the campaigns
progress.

Just wait until the general election. It's going to be insane.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #25
28. Once we have a nominee, it stops
Period.

No question about it.

The only negative posting allowed will be neagative towards the idiot son of an asshole.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:06 AM
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12. He had the distinction..................
of being the only DU'er I ever put on ignore. Thanks and good luck to your man!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:46 AM
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13. I've never been fond of kicking my own posts
But I want this one to stay up for awhile-at least 24 hours-so a variety of people can see it. This ass-wipe was a huge embarrassment and I really don't want to be connected to that kind of evil, empty rhetoric. So, I'm gonna give the sonovabitch a big old donkey kick!

CLARK CAMPAIGNER SUCKS BIG TIME!!!!! Thank you guys for banning It!

:kick:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:48 AM
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14. thank you for saying that!
:hi:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 08:39 AM
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15. Kick for people insulted by this creep on the day shift
:kick:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
30. kick n/t
:kick:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:06 AM
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16. Cool!
Thanks for this post. I ran into "it" a few times but do not remember if I ever had direct contact. No worries, I have found all but one or two Clark supporters to be nice folks and those few do not post often. It is nice of you to apologize but it is easy to spot the few that make it difficult for the rest. No worrries.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:12 AM
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17. I had him pegged from the start
I never put him on ignore because I wondered when he would finally reveal himself.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #17
27. kick n/t
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:29 AM
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18. dumb question...
what prevents him from just 'coming back' with a new name

i've seen some freerepublic material coming in under a couple new posters that purport to be clark supporters.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. Skinner mentioned in ATA that they can determine if a new login is
created on the same computer, or with the same e-mail address, as the tombstoned poster. If you think someone's back, hit alert.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:31 AM
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19. Thanks for the encouraging words
Just wanted to let you know that I've made many Clark friends here and don't hold the opinions of any one person against Clark.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:34 AM
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20. Thanks Rowdyboy
It seems the massive sig-line pics is a good indicator of who's legit and who isn't. I also have come to realize that many who claim to be supporters of a Dem candidate are likely anything but.

Nice post. :toast:

Julie
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:44 AM
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22. thanks for the post
good reminder
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:44 AM
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23. Rowdyboy, you are a true gentleman
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:59 AM
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26. Rowdyboy, I'll try to keep it kicked 4 ya today!
I just have to run to get an Rx filled @ noon but after that I'm in bed all day with DU!

Aren't you all excited! You've got my undivided attention for another 24 hours!!!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. Thats sorta scarey
since we just climbed out (for the second time-if you catch my drift)

:evilgrin:
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:55 AM
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29. I appreciate this!
Democrats of different campaigns need to put the fears and suspicions aside and trust each other.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:12 PM
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31. IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!
that I love DU...smooch and yes...assholes are everywhere...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:23 PM
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33. ...another DU thread...sadly devoid of content
I remember when we used to bust 9/11 and Enron stories. Fastow is in the news today and you would not know it from the "latest" page of DU.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Thanks for reading
and taking the time to offer your thoughts.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. Have you started a thread about Fastow? n/t
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:35 PM
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34. I only saw this person a couple of times
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 12:38 PM by Clark Can WIN
And thought the person was a fraud from the start.

Ugly.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 12:56 PM
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36. Very big of you, but...
...you have nothing to apologize for. As a Dean supporter I have certainly had many occasions to sit here and cringe while one of my fellow supporters behaves in a completely obnoxious and uncalled-for way that I'm sure will alienate more people than it will convince. That kind of behavior is totally counterproductive and I wish there were more people like you (supporting ANY candidate) who realized how damaging this kind of thing is.

I really appreciate where you're coming from and I look forward to the time when we have our nominee, whoever that might be, so that we can all come together again.

May the best candidate win.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 01:04 PM
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38. No blood, no foul.
I'm a tough little bastard, just like my candidate! :evilgrin:
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:26 PM
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41. Thank you--and good riddance!
That guy was an obvious freeper mole.

You have done good.

But I have a question:

What about that other other person or thing who founded the "Stop Dean movement" threads?

I'd LOVE to hear some discussion of that person's tactics from honest, upstanding Clark supporters like yourself.

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. I was occupied when that crap went down
and I never saw the thread-but I've heard it referred to. Hope that ass is gone too.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. I don't think that creep is gone---but a lot of others seem to be..
Not your fault, of course, or General Clark's.

I appreciate your good intentions and civil tone.

I hope stinkers like these will stop trying to disrupt your candidate's campaign.

Thanks for improving the atmosphere here.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 02:30 PM
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42. is this the guy
that had the big Clark & flag graphic...with a cool fade around the edge?

it was too big for a sig line but a nice graphic

too bad this guy "soiled" it

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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 10:44 PM
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48. I think it was that guy...also...
He was the one whp praised Nixon quite a bit, which sorta turned ME off...
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. He was the one
who thought Reagan was a great president, and soiled a thread that was already badly soiled to begin with.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:38 PM
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51. Yeah--and this time, the troll actually took the fall for his crimes..
Hope this marks the beginning of a trend..PLEASE?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:39 PM
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46. kick n/t
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 11:18 PM
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50. Abso-effing-lutely agreed
Totally agreed, and thumbs up for managing to give it the final nudge over the edge.

That noxious "Clark Campaigner" character went totally over the line. If it's gone, put out to pasture: hip hurray. I flagged a few myself, too, with those atrocious images.

Embarrassing and not funny whatsoever.

We try to keep a clean house... We're supposed to be Clark's Ambassadors. A class act.
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