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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:13 AM
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"We looked at the same intelligence"-- info please
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 12:23 AM by gottaB
Can anybody explain the difference between the version of the National Intelligence Assesment on Iraq that Senator Kerry was shown, and the version that George Bush had access to?

ON Edit: Added a verbatim quote. Bush claimed about five times that they both saw the same intelligence.

Transcript from Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_0930.html

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:15 AM
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1. Yeah...that burned me up, too!
Why didn't Kerry light into the neocons and Chalabi and the Pentagon's OSP?

Kerry didn't have access to that info.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:28 AM
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7. I don't know if Kerry had a chance to rebut
but if he did, he should have said, "Coming from the Pentagon and having your seal of approval, I assumed it was true. I wasn't aware that as a senator I was to assume that you and your administration had given us false or poorly researched information."
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:15 AM
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2. busholini knew it was cooked, Johnny K believed it was true.
busholini inc made the shit up, and junior knew it.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:15 AM
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3. Been thinking about that
I think the intelligence briefings Congress got were the briefings without the footnotes warning that the sources/data etc were unsound. I wish Kerry would have mentioned that.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:25 AM
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5. that was my understanding n/t
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:24 AM
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4. so why do the freepers keep bleating that * had special "secret:" info
about WMD etc? That's their excuse for the total lack of rational reasons for the war. Jesus W Bush is not at liberty to tell America the truth!
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:39 AM
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9. Those people have already made up their minds
You could go bonkers trying to make sense out of it.
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:25 AM
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6. Sure

The version the Senate saw was the unclassified version that the Bush administration had heavily edited, altered.

The classified version was quite different.

If you search you will find articles with citations from both. Bush camp actually released some of the classified versions to try and deflect criticism and got further crucified over it.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:36 AM
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8. You are correct. The version Kerry et al were shown had all the
qualifiers removed.

Example - al-queda may have some desires to do some terror attacks (bush* version)

Kerry version - al-queda to do some terror attacks
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