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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:10 AM
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After Bush's MELTDOWN, be prepared for 9-11 II
We better be ready for 9-11 II - what is known by the extrem right as "Goebbel's "Electoral Bomb"


If the Bushies see the handwriting on the wall and are desperate enough - I suspect they will hit a nuke plant.

After Bush's meltdown tonight, they will have to do SOMETHING to avoid further debates and postpone or eliminate elections.

The Bushes did it in Nazi Germany (the Reichstag Fire was a Bush operation according to lots of evidence)

and they will do it again here again.

I hope homeland security is watching the Bush operatives closely.

Keep Kelp (Potassium iodide) on hand and a weeks worth of water and canned food as well as an exit plan if you live within 50 miles downwind of a nuke plant. I wish I had motorcycles.

I have wondered whether the hurricanes evacuations were a test run for mass hysteria and exodus and control and mandatory martial law and detentions.

It could happen here.

Especially after tonight.


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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:12 AM
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1. What do you mean about Kelp?
I am in NYC and I will go right out and get it. Is it from the health food store? Is it a capsule? What's the logic?
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:13 AM
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2. The logic is Iodine
Radioactive iodine won't stay in the body if it's already saturated.

That said, I don't see this happening.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:16 AM
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5. Okay. But a dirty bomb is not unlikely, really.
And they have been talking it up for a while now. And they let the nuclear materials in Iraq be stolen by looters. So I don't really think a dirty bomb is far-fetched.

How much Kelp would you take? Seriously, I feel a need to know these things.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:28 AM
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9. Stephanie
I'm in NYC, too, and I beg you not to worry about this.

If you insist, go to a camping store and get a water purification kit that uses iodine to kill the bacteria in the water. Some use liquid iodine, some use iodine crystals that partially dissolve. All taste awful.

The minute you hear about a dirty bomb, make yourself a glass of the water and drink it. You will innundate your body with pure iodine and only pick up trace amounts of the bad stuff. If you're really paranoid, drink a glass of the wretched stuff every week or so as insurance (not that it will help). In terms of quantity, even eating lots of iodized salt should be enough to keep you from harm in the time between when a dirty bomb is released until you can react.

But please, don't worry about it. Courage.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:21 AM
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7. Kelp can be bought at health food stores and will protect you from
radioactive iodine in the event of a nuke leak. It protects the thyroid which regulates the hormones (and reasll can mess your immune system and lots of things up) It is already pandemic from nuke leaks and tests.

The thyroid needs iodine. Radioiodine will come at you in a nuke leak. If your thyroid is already full of iodine it will pass the radioactive iodine out of the body.

Kelp is a seaweed and can be purchased in powder form. As soon as you hear of a nuke leak or bomb it is wise to immediately swallow a few tablesppons of kelp and keep doping so daily fo at least a 6 weeks (then the radioiodine totally dissipates (decays) and emitys no more radioactive particles and thus you are safe (from THAT radiation - avoiding irradiated foods etc, from OTHER nucleides is also critical. Milk and food from exposed areas should NOT be eaten and should be neasured with a dosimeter.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:15 AM
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3. I've had enough of fear, thanks
If I believed this really really was going to happen, I'd already be on my way to Canada.

Or further.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:16 AM
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4. Reichstag fire a Bush operation????????LINK; proof???? something????
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:23 AM
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8. Prescott Bush only financed Hitler, but didn't set the fire.
However, if many suspicious folks are right, 9/11 may have been the "Reichstag Fire" that the neoCons over at PNAC were alluding to when they said the American people needed "another Pearl Harbor" to rally the people around the flag so that invading Iraq would be much easier to sell. The Reichstag Fire was responsible for galvanizing the German people against the communists and the Jews, setting the NAZI party into power.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:40 AM
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13. No, not quite.
While wheover actually lit the fire was probably not Prescott Bush, there are clear links between Bush and the perpetrators indicating they may have been in on the "plan" and financed it and the coverup.

see this article:

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/06/02/guestoped_sg.htm
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:32 AM
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10. History Lesson
1. The Bushes financed Hitler and the rise of the Nazi party.

2. There was a wasp ivy league elite who were Hitler's strategists and some were based in the Bush operation.

3. The Reichstag Fire was a Nazi plan to blame foreign terrorists, strike fear in the German people so that they could eviscerate their constitution in the name of "Homeland Security" and catapult Hitler to absolute power.

4. The fire was set and the perpetrators escaped to the offices of one of these ivy league elites (Putzi Hanfstaengl) according to a number of sources.

The best history of the fire and how it worked (and Goebbbel's "Electoral Bomb" quote) is found in a book called "A History of National Socialism" (Konrad Heiden - 1935)

Do a few searches on Bush and nazis, Hanfstaengl and the Reichstag fire and then connect the dots.

It is NOT a stretch.


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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:37 AM
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12. A link to connect Reichstag Fire and the Bushes (for starters)
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/06/02/guestoped_sg.htm

There are lots of sources on this, but this one gives good perspective
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:20 AM
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6. I do not doubt
I do not doubt that these people will do anything to stay in power. It is scary.
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Heath.Hunnicutt Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:35 AM
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11. A way to be prepared
Get on top of local news outlets (company newsletters, building news letters) at places that are likely 'targets.' There were rumors last time that people valuable to the other side were kept out of harm's way, but we don't have any proof.
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:40 AM
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14. After tonight, I dont think he can....
get away with it that is...see, one of his points tonight is how he is keeping the war 'off our soil'. If he did another attack, the people would say - hey, wait - you said you were keeping it off our soil....even a lot of republicans I know would switch I think.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:56 AM
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15. who cares what people say if Bush declares martial law
and suspends the elections indefintiely due to terror attacks?

That will be their mindset.

They want to win by any means necessary
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 02:41 AM
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16. He will care what the people say
when he tries to *enforce* martial law.

It won't happen.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:14 AM
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18. I pray you are right. but I am not real confident
I do have some thoughts on it which will wait until after the election
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:46 AM
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22. Martial law has been predicted by many for at least a year
After this fiasco last night, that was one of my thoughts. It's not in the bag, so Plan B has to be executed to secure the election. They will not let go of power easily.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 03:26 AM
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17. The only problem with this notion..
IMO, is that Bush is saying that he already has made us safer.
I think any major attack on the US would run the risk of the idiots who think he has made us safer, suddenly realizing that he has not.

If I happen to be wrong, being from NYC, and meaning no disrespect to anyone here, I hope they plan it for Nebraska.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:20 AM
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19. If the goal is to disrupt or prevent the elections (and not an October
Surprise to influence the election) then it will not matter what people think.

I guarantee that some neofascist spooks from Princeton or Harvard or elsewhere are sitting around now debating this very question: should we do it? Will it work?

I believe they are insane and stupid enough to try it and they have the troops in place to enforce it.

But if there is a smarter man among them than the idiot criminals running things now then they , hopefiully will see that doing this would open a sh*tbag that would consume them in an ugly way.

Do they care?

I doubt it.

Did Hitler care?
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:35 AM
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20. Mark Crispin Miller
said the same thing this morning. He is afraid something terrible will happen because * feels entitled to rule and nothing is going to stop him.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:46 AM
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21. But if the "terra-ists" attacked Nebraska, where would Junior hide?
He probably wouldn't want to piss off Warren Buffett either.

What about Kansas? Not even most Repukes would miss Fred Phelps.
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