Can We Make A List Of Debate Whores?

[demwing]

Some of the Republicans and Talking Heads have been grudginly honest. But some have been incoherent in their spin. Lets start a list, and hammer these people so they know that they don't represent the truth, or the popular opinion

I'll start with three, just off the top of my head:

Sean Hannity
Peggy Noonan
Rudy Guilliani

They are the worst, most oblivious perps in the post debate spin wars.

Who would you add?

[SoCalDemocrat]

1. I avoided cable news

I purposely avoided cable news channels.

I've been watching PBS, CSPAN, and the big 3. So far no blatant abuses. PBS had a pack of middle of the roaders who wanted to see balance in the whole debate.

I heard Hannity was pretty bad in his spinning for Bush.

[depakid]

2. David Brooks?

Nah- he's an all purpose say or do anything lie all the time can't live up to his parents whore.

He doesn't count.

[krkaufman]

12. David Brooks *should* be included.

He was less ridiculous than Giuliani, but he still tried spinning the debate as a tie. (All that is reasonable given the thrashing his boy took.)

[Barad Simith]

3. Guilliani made an ASS of himself on the Daily Show

lying lowlife. i used to have some respect for him

[demwing]

7. Stewart was obviously disappointed with Rudy

he challenged him on every answer, then just kind of "yeah, whatevered" him off the show.

[KharmaTrain]

4. Ben Ginsburg

Where the hell did MSGOP dig this dogshit from? First, this is the Swift Liar's head liar and a bigwig in the RNC. Tweety should be screaming at him to come clean about his connections in the sliming of Kerry...instead he's an anal-ist? And a poor one at that.

The guy is the epitome of a shyster...a lawyer who makes your skin crawl.

[NightOwwl]

9. He's from the SwiftBoat Lying Pigs?

Get him outta here.

Chris Mathhews must go also. I'm not sure what's up with him, but he was doing everything in his power tonight to prop Bush up and bring Kerry down.

[KharmaTrain]

13. How Soon We Forget

Ginsburg had to resign as Chief Consul of the RNC...their head shyster...because he also was doing work for the Slime Boat liars. This guy is wrapped up in all the wingnut and neo-con crap. My best comparison is to the Robert DuVal character in the Godfather...the consigliere...the fixer.

I first saw this guy during the Clinton inquisition...he's close to Lucianne and was one of the worst slimers during that time and I haven't stopped watching this weasel since.

What's an outrage is that he isn't identified for the partisan hack he is. Tweety knows the conflict of interest and ignores it.

[LittleClarkie]

17. Especially inexcusable

After Matthews ripped O'Neill a new one when he was first on Hardball. Matthews should know better. Surely there is a REAL Republican somewhere, not these neo-con scum.

[KharmaTrain]

21. Did You See O'Neill On Tweety Last Week?

Tweety assumed the position and fellated this guy. He didn't have anyone on to rebut this scum and even "palled" with this humanoid shit. It was an outrage and confirmed my feelings that Tweety is a complete opportunist and egotist.

Now I'm not sure what a REAL Repugnican is anymore. Is it the Lou Dobb-David Gergen-Lincoln Chaffee social liberals/economic conservatives? That part of the GOOP hit the endangered list when Raygun came in.

Cheers!

[LittleClarkie]

26. I fear you are correct

There is a Goldwater Republican in my church. Well, he identifies that he *was* a Goldwater Republican. The party moved away from him and is now unrecognizable to him. He is now a Democrat who takes great pleasure in the middle of church in addressing me as "fellow traveler." There are those in our community who would have our hide, so conservative are some of our neighbors.

I was listening to Savage for a moment on my way home tonight. When Lehrer asked Bush a tough question (well, just trying to get Bush to repeat the campaign claim that Kerry would make America more open to terrorism) ol' Michael shouted "Get rid of that Bolshovik!" Um, dude? Cold War's over, dude? Didn't you get the memo? Apparently Savage saw that as pro-Kerry baiting of Bush. I thought it was just a decent question that used what these people have been saying on the stump. What's the matter with that?

And why in heaven's name is the other side always Communist or Socialist to these people? Hence, my church buddy's joking comment. But I do get so sick of that. It's so kneejerk and ignorant of history. These people wouldn't know a real Socialist if one came up and bit him on the ass.

Sometimes I wonder if even Nixon would have been too liberal for these folks. And sometimes I think I'd rather have Nixon in office INSTEAD OF BUSH. At least Nixon understood foreign policy and diplomacy, paranoid though he may have been.

[KharmaTrain]

30. Some People Need Boogie Men

I remember this debate in the early 90's (I initiated several of them in my former lifetime as a talk show host)...about how the GOOP right wing in those days need a boogie man or something to aim their internal self-loathing and general contempt for mankind.

The Soviets fit this bill well...so did the Red Chinese. They even played up the part and we couldn't get enough of the stereotypes of Boris Badenov and sinister guys with Russian accents. We still have it today.

After the cold war there was no one to fill that Soviet void. No evil empire, no evil Ivan. Some of that anger ended up being directed at Bill Clinton, but you can't bomb Clinton...we needed something the military-industrial complex could profit off of. Enter Osama bin Laden and Saddam...now "terrorism" (aka hating A-rabs) is the new boogie man that the GOOP will play off of indefinitely. Anyone who begs to differ is "one of them".

People like Savage and the other hate radio flamers live in blissful ignorance based on arrogance. They know it all and our goal is to get their approval. Screw 'em. It's time to say there are no absolute and no completely right or completely wrong way. It's called free will and fate, you'd figure these boneheads would at least understand that concept.

Ironically, I used to use Nixon as the measure of the worst President of my lifetime, with Raygun a close second. It's all Bunnypants now. I can't think of anything this boy has done that I've come close to agreeing with yet approving of.

[demwing]

37. I swear to god, if the Republicans ever ran a REAL republican

A Teddy Roosevelt Republican, a Lincoln Republican...

I would have to think hard about voting Dem, just that once, so as to help rid that party of the dangerous element.

[NightOwwl]

24. It's all coming back now.

I had never seen the face associated with the name. That's why I didn't put 2 and 2 together. I get it now.

[HuskerDem]

38. Isn't shyster a slur against Jewish lawyers? A racial slur?

That makes me very uncomfortable. Can't we just call an ass, an ass?

[illuminaughty]

33. He looked positively reptilian

On MSNBC it seemed like he he was going to shed his skin. He and Cheney are equally vile.

[SoCalDemocrat]

5. Bob Novack

Novack gave Kerry a "D" grade on the Content of his debate.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/debates/press.pundits

[ClintonTyree]

14. I've been writing to.................

that old whore asking him to retire every week for over a year. He's so out of touch with reality and after the Plame affair I went ballistic. I'm a constant thorn is this idiot's side and I won't let up. He has yet to respond, the coward. He has NO business being a "Journalist" anymore. It's past time to be put out to pasture Novak, do us all and yourself favor.

[SoCalDemocrat]

18. I wrote an editorial to Novack

I wrote an editorial to Novack. Send your comments to Novack here:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/blog/09/30/novak.blog/

Complain to the editor about his specific works here:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form6.html?1

[LittleClarkie]

20. That can only mean that Novack knows precisely dick about the issues

If he did, he would have known that Kerry nailed almost every point he made tonight.

I'm so proud of him I could pop. Like Clark before him, Kerry said many of the things I was thinking, and I will love him for that forever. I hope the American people can see it too. Hopefully they can see past the spin.

Sing it, Brother Kerry. Send some hope our way!

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

6. Karen Hughes

[Leilani]

8. Karen Hughes is awful!

She is the worst, by far.

[tishaLA]

10. And WHAT was she wearing?

a shiny dead leprechaun? She looked like hell. It looked like a get up for a drag queen.

Kinda fits with her size 12 shoes.

[illuminaughty]

34. She is a drag queen

In 2000, it was always a toss up for who would raise my blood pressure faster, Karen Hughes or Katherine Harris.

Meryl Streep said she had two people in mind when doing "Manchurian Candidate" and that she was not imitating Hillary Clinton. My personal opinion was that she modeled her character after Karen Hughes/Barbara Bush.

[ikojo]

11. New York Times...Here is the headline and blurb

Bush is put in a more positive light and Kerry is portrayed more negatively by this headline..

Bush Sees a Safer America, While Kerry Sees a 'Colossal Error'
President Bush said he acted to protect the U.S., while John Kerry said Mr. Bush had made a "colossal error" of judgment in Iraq.


Standing Firm for 90 Minutes
In the end, it was a real debate: sharp and scrappy, just what the nation seemed to yearn for during a wartime election campaign.


How can they get by with this, Bush just rambled on and on and did not answer any one question directly, instead he fell back on Rovian soundbytes.

[krkaufman]

15. I *PRAY* that someone is putting together an analysis...

... of questions asked, and how well each candidate responded to the actual question.

[Supersedeas]

36. * never responded to several questions directly at all-yet Brooks claimed

that * responded directly with several succinct point
and Kerry wondered off with a litany that had nothing to do with the question.

The unabashed willingness to directly lie to the 'Merican people is amazing.

[krkaufman]

39. Yep, Brooks forced me to turn from PBS almost immediately...

... after the debate. He was just making crap up.

[ClintonTyree]

16. If Kerry had acted like Bush.................

did in the "debate" the headlines would read, "Kerry comes apart at the seams".
The NY Whore Times is showing it's true colors again.

[asian_al]

19. 3 words

Karen fuckin huges

and ann colter or whatever that whore's name is

[VOX]

23. Isn't this the sad truth?

No way would Kerry have gotten away with what the Chimp did tonight.

[SoCalDemocrat]

25. attack back

Please add this to one of the media threads or start a new one.

Link the article as well as where to reply to the editor with your emial to help people frame their arguments.

[LittleClarkie]

28. I will admit

It was more confrontational than I thought it was going to be. Even with a moderator between them, they were able to respond to what the other was saying.

[Obamarama]

22. Andrea Mitchell

What a Jezebel.

[illuminaughty]

35. Andrea Mitchell Greenspan

How can you be objective when your husband heads the Federal Reserve?
Just another fine member of the NWO

[krkaufman]

27. Tim Russert

Russert was a total whore on NBC.

[krkaufman]

29. Carol Costello, on CNN right now at 4:53am

She was shocked when an emailer commented that Bush appeared like a child.

Plus, she's got some Bush sycophant morning talk radio hosts on the phone, trying to discount Bush's abyssmal performance.

[Carey46955]

31. This guy on ABC

...and, damn, I can't think of his name right now. Mark something? Anyway, he was on ABC and the Charlie Rose Show last night telling us about how much the Chimp has grown since 2000. Four years ago he didn't know the names of world leaders..now he brags about picking up the phone and talking to them because he's pals with all of them. Mark thinks that's real impressive.

Also, Chimpy looked angry last night because he KNOWS that Kerry would make an awful president. This guy actually said that.

What a tool.

[John_H]

32. The entire staff of CNN.