So what ARE the Dems going to do about CNN?

[John_H]

CNN--supposedly a collection of independent-minded journalists--has a single spin of the debate: that it was a draw and even if it isn't it doesn't matter. From McCurry "losing" his feed to Cafferty saying we should rally behind chimp while showing Iraq war scenes with America the Beatiful playing in the background to Schnieder saying that people who win the first debate don't win the race.

Every CNN whore is staying on message as faithfully as any political spinner. They have dropped every pretense of objectivity. They are blatantly funtioning as an arm of the White House spin machine.

We're boycotting, writing letters, contacting sponsors, etc. Meanwhile, the Dems on the shows, with a couple of exceptions, actually treat CNN whores as if they are journalists asking questions, not political operatives spinning. Presumably, no Dem would let Ralph Reed lie without challenging him. Why let judy woodruff do it?

How can we get our surrogates to call CNN people on their spinning, point it out for their viewers to see in real time? Any ideas?

[radwriter0555]

1. What to do? Turn it off. Be a real American and stand by YOUR opinions

about our next president and the outgoing loser, who, keep in mind, didn't WIN the last election. He was appointed.

We don't need to rely on corporate media for our opinions, and we can set the example of that by turning off the teevee and telling others to do the same.

[makhno]

8. Turn it off, indeed

For extra credit, turn it back on from time to time, catch a commercial or two then write an email/letter to the companies involved explaining that you are boycotting their products because of their association with a politicized news source infamous for its lack of integrity.

Not much else we can do; in this day and age it's all about giving money to your friends and taking it away from your enemies.

[John_H]

13. The problem is that swing voters are not going to turn it off. It sure

makes me feel better to turn off Cafferty, but my vote is set.

Does anyone think it's impossible that 500 voters in FL can be swayed by CNN's spin?

CNN has to be confronted--and the only people that can do it so swing voters can see are our surrogates.

[w4rma]

16. You think ignoring the problem will make it go away, radwriter0555? (nt)

[ewagner]

2. Fortunately Cafferty is an idiot

He may think that bit he did with the soldiers and America the Beautiful was profound, but it wasn't. It had no context. It was shallow; too shallow to resonate.

[beaver tamer]

10. He asked if we could tell a repuke from a DEM....

...the piece showed soldiers, so my guess they are DEMOCRATS because repukes don't join the military.

[Wright Patman]

3. Could it be any clearer

that the Saudi prince who owns a substantial chunk of Time Warner is dictating the terms of CNN's "news" coverage and analysis?

[Mika]

4. Don't listen to the 'librul' press

That's what I tell bushies who repeat the swill touted there.



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[skylarmae]

5. We need to think of something to hit their pocketbook

And hit it hard. Then give 'em about 3 days and the hawks will be canaries.

Georgie Porgie's got to go!

[Atman]

6. CNN - THE NEW FOX

Get the word out. Embarrass and discredit them, use it all the time, make logos and flyers and blah blah blah...I agree entirely, CNN has gone over the edge. I cannot believe I'm watching more and more MSNBC lately because many of their talking heads actually sound reasonable!

[NewJeffCT]

17. CNN is worse than Fox

At least Fox admitted Kerry won the debate. Nobody on CNN seemed able to do that, and their pundits really bent over for Bush... I mean, David Ensor really had to stretch to find questionable innacuracies.

[snoogins]

7. these media whores

suckle at cokechimp's teat and it makes me sick

[democrank]

9. I`ll tell you what I`ve already done.

Boycott CNN, that`s what.It`s going on four weeks and I`m loving it.

[Hobarticus]

11. Turn that shit OFF....

Why bother?

Watch "Daily Show" instead. My wife and I call it "the news".

[Supersedeas]

12. There was a time when Repugs would avoid making appearances

it got there attention.

John H., you may have a point--it may be time to cut them off.

[John_H]

15. i agree--but i think there are too many Dems who love to hear themselves

talk. CNN could have a never ending supply of Dems who will bend over as they spin for Chimp--just to get on TV. There has to be a cost for surrogates who do a shitty job. Rethugs who scre up are forbidden from going on shows again (seem Malkin lately?). We need to do the same thing.

[sherilocks]

14. I've been emailing and calling CNN

about their radical right bias. They give us a half hour of Crossfire rants and that's supposed to be equal time for the rest of their programming. So far, not a single response from anyone at CNN. Don't give up; keep hammering at them. CNN may change when they realize that they can't get Faux's audience, that the left half of the country has tuned them out, and that they have 0% market share of the viewing audience.

[Killarney]

18. Watch MSNBC

I've been watching MSNBC and boycotting FAUX and CNN. I've noticed a slow change in MSNBC. Olbermann is obviously the man, but I've also noticed in general that MSNBC is doing the stories the others are skipping, etc. I'm rewarding them by watching. If they notice that when they are fair their ratings go up, then they will have more people like Olbermann.

[liveoaktx]

19. Point it out in every conversation that CNN has jumped the shark

[Lugnut]

20. I stopped watching CNN

When their numbers tank that should send them a message.

[SOS]

34. CNN

is now the lowest-rated TV news organization in America.
Let's keep spreading the word and get them down to zero.
(Their daytime 18-54 is already at zero - too low to measure!)

[lancdem]

21. Schneider said people who win the first debate don't win?

Kennedy-Nixon 1960, anyone? And didn't Reagan utter his famous "There you go again line" after the first debate in 1980?

[Maiden England]

22. Make good use of your TIVO's thumbs down key

since big brother is logging every thing you watch and AWOL Time Warner actually pays for that info, might as well make 'em choke on the demographics.

[makhno]

24. It's a repug talking point

The idiot Matthews was trying to shill this point last night on MSNBC, but Scarborough slapped him back:

M: Is this like Reagan/Mondale, 1984?
S: No, Reagan was smart. Bush is dumb and there's no way he's winning the other debates.

Those bastards are so predictable. Listen to them for ten minutes and you can start making Rove/Hughes talking point index cards on your own.

[John_H]

25. He used Perot and Ford . Of course it's BS. but what's a whore to do

when reality is so obviously against him?

[Cats Against Frist]

23. I've listened, I've watched

and yes, I've come to the decision that, after several years that CNN is pure bullshit -- they are coming out for the chimp so hard, I can't even figure out what the hell is going on -- and more LIBERALS supposedly still watch this network.

If I have to watch news, spin, pundits, whatever -- I watch CNBC -- but NEVER those that vacant-looking bimbo and the MTV Chick, who are dumb as rocks (sorry girls) -- because even when they're being shits and right-wing meme spreaders, at least they're a little bit of fun. And every time I start to get pissed that they're leaning right, they surprise me. Especially that delightful motherfucker Chris Matthews, who, after a year of watching, I can tell he's a Dem, but I think he's the most fair of the talking heads on the MSM channels.

Wolf, Candy and Judy are sour as all get out, and it's CLEAR to me, now, that they are attempting to de-rail Kerry. Last night's debate was NO DRAW -- all we heard was style, style, style, Kerry's stiff, "you could have the debate with the sound off," "Kerry's gotta make up a lot of ground," -- and then he stands on the stage with that extremist, idiot, hunching, smirking, duh-ing, piece of broken-record, lying shit and looks more presidential, sounds more presidential, knows more, makes Bush look like a dummy, was actually WARMER than Bush, who was pissed off and wanted to get out.

I mean, if you want to give the Boy King points for "staying on message," and "knowing a little more than the whole free world ever imagined that he'd know," fine. But it was no draw. Even FOX news, after the debate was mostly in favor of Kerry (except for Kristol's grovely ass -- BTW does anyone else find his mouth, voice, and I-don't-give-a-rat's-ass delivery really sexy? Maybe it's just me.)

CNN has some problems. And even though this is a long post, it boils down to: don't watch it. Tell your friends it's the perfect Rove psy-op -- that the most "liberal" 24-hour news channel on television is actually the most slanted toward taking down Kerry. Find out who their sponsors are, and write them, and boycott them. That's about all we can do.

[liberal N proud]

26. Stop watching!

Same fate for FAUX or any other network or self proclaimed news opinions shows.
If people don't watch, advertisers don't advertise and shows die.

[DeepModem Mom]

27. DU turning off CNN, or any other media, doesn't solve the problem --

The media is our biggest obstacle (with the exception of the Bush cabal's willingness to use undemocratic tactics to the point of stealing an election). Asking what our party's strategy is to attempt to neutralize or counter a powerful media propping up Bush is a legitimate question.

[HootieMcBoob]

28. We can't ignore anything

Turning OFF the TV or the channel is not an option!

Look what happened just a couple of days ago when Media Matters galvanized us all and got MSNBC to dump Frank Luntz!

And during the same day we got the dude from Ohio to give up on his anti-democratic plan to throw away voter registrations that aren't on the proper card stock!

Whether we watch the channel is not going to stop all of the independents or on the fence Republicans from watching. And, whether we like it or not what is said or announced as fact or common wisdom among the blowhards who have crowned themselves the arbiters of political fact actually does make a difference in the way the election may turn out. People are swayed by what they say. They have an effect on peoples perceptions!

We need to get Media Matters involved in this. We have to point out repeatedly that Schneider is an AEI fellow and that to call this debate a draw defies logic!

We can't put our head in the sand! We have to respond to this BS!

[funkybutt]

29. Main talking point was: "NO Home run or knock out punch for Kerry"

they must have decided before hand if Bush fell on his face that they'd use this line.

Cut away to correspondent with Bush camp "feeling good, some t hink could have been better but still NO HOME RUN FOR KERRY"

Cut away to correspondednt with Kerry camp "people are pleased, but still NO KNOCK OUT PUNCH FOR KERRY"

WTF IS THAT??? Why would two "journalists" at different locations be regurgitating the same tired line that the broadcasters had already said earlier. HOW VERY OUT-FOXED of CNN!

[whattheheck]

30. CNN Headline - "Kerry Won"

this may be buried deep in the site (on the daily political blog type page) but at least the "draw" thing hasn't permeated cnn's website. don't watch the channel on tv so i assume the pro-bush spinning is going on there. anyway, for what it's worth, at least someone within the empire there gets it:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/fri/index.html

[John_H]

31. That's a John Mercurio opinion piece--not a news story. Their news

pieces both on the web and on TV say it was a draw.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. I sent an e-mail to CNN demanding immediate firings

explaining that I am no longer a viewer but will return to CNN upon the immediate firing of Judy Woodruff, Wolf Blitzer, Bill Schneider, and Candy Crowley. However, I saw Wolf Blitzer on again this morning, spinning that the debate was a tie and, in such an event, it means that the sitting President wins the debate, so I guess CNN chose to disobey my direct order to them.

[Shopaholic]

33. I've sent e-mail after e-mail to CNN--nothing's changed.

I think that MSNBC at least listens to us--remember they buckled under our e-mail campaign against Frank Luntz.

[John_H]

35. LOL. Which proves that our talkers have to do it on air.