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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:09 AM
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Here's a REPUBLICAN review of the debate last night
This was posted over at rotharmy.com by "Sgt. Schultz" who is usually an unrepentant defender of Junior and his policies. Most of the Busheep on that board are mindnumbingly trying to spin the debate to Junior, so needless to say I was shocked to read this.........

Sgt Schultz is always going to be honest with you.

John Kerry totally kicked Bush's butt last night. No question about it. Up until last night I felt pretty sure that Bush would win the election. After the debate I now think Kerry has a good chance of winning.

Some random points to consider.

1. All night Bush has a pissed off, annoyed look on his face. To me and I think other voters, this said "I really don't want to be here and endure questions" - i know what others are saying - that Leher didn't ask Kerry about his Senate record or antiwar activites but come on - this is a debate about being President and it is fair to question the sitting President about his foreign policy and the war in Iraq. He owes us answers, as any sitting President does, and to just repeat tiny sound bytes of crap isn't going to cut it. He has to do better than this - way better.

2. All night Bush kept saying the SAME THING - "We're doing good work", "It's a tough job" - you know what I say - bullshit - we, the American people are OWED more of an answer than that. If there is more of an answer than give it to us. If i was on Bush's staff I'd be kicking him in the pants today. Totally piss-poor answers.

3. Kerry sounded much more intelligent and lucid than Bush. Bush often went over his time allotment and then when Bush would storongly aslk for 30 more seconds - he'd just hemm and haw and spout the same crap - if you are going to ask for 30 more seconds then SAY SOMETHING. Good God.

4. For anyone who was listening, I think that Kerry DID explain his position on Iraq very clearly. If you don't understand, you aren;t listening. And Bush's response - the same. Yikes.

The feeling of diappointment may pass, and I'm sure Kerry will go out and say something dumb to make me feel better about last night but as it stands now, the bush campaign had better be worrying.


Now, honestly I don't see this guy voting for Kerry, but other Republicans and certainly some of the Bush-leaning undecideds had to have seen the same things Schultz did.



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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:10 AM
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1. most honest republicans know that Bush reeked last night
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:14 AM
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6. If they are both HONEST and SMART, they know that Cheney is running
the country. There is no way in hell that Bush could be doing it.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:28 AM
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10. your avatar is freaking me out! n/t
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:11 AM
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2. many repugs feel "let down".... hard for them to admit defeat
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:11 AM
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3. Thanks..
An excellent analysis. Particularly for a republican.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:12 AM
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4. I'm shocked.
Do you all remember how paranoid we were just over 13 hours ago?

Now we're faced with whether or not many Repubs will switch to Kerry or just stay home. I knew Kerry would do it!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:14 AM
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5. That....
.... is a pretty fair summation IMHO. I'm impressed that he made note of 2 things...

1) the "I'd rather be crapping razor blades than be here" look on Bush*'s face

2) that there is no substance to Bush*'s arguments about why he went to war

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:16 AM
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7. From a nutty Naderite:
"I'm going to have a harder time convincing Kerry voters to vote for Nader. Kerry actually has a chance of winning now. It will be easier to nab some Bush voters though."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:27 AM
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9. LMFAO!
let's hope that Nader takes votes from Bush, as suggested
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:41 AM
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13. yeah those Bush voters are running straight to Ralph
:eyes:
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:26 AM
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8. rotharmy.com? As in the David Lee Roth site?
I think there are a few dems there too. But, body language is everything. When you look relaxed and comfortable, it works to your advantage. When you look uncomfortable, it hurts. People mentioned Bush senior looking at his watch during one of the debates. The fact is, Kerry looked comfortable, calm and knew how to address everything thrown at him. He also dished some stuff out. Bush looked quite uncomfortable. I did see the deer in headlights expression a few times. He stuttered a lot. The sad thing for Bush was, this was his stump speech. If he can't do this, he is screwed. One can only hope.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:32 AM
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11. I would wager that Kerry won over many, many Republicans last night.
Whether moderate Republicans or traditional Republicans, Kerry offered them much more than Bush did.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:38 AM
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12. There are some republicans we can work with.
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 09:39 AM by Jim4Wes
Why don't they help us kick this bunch of foolish criminals out so we can get about the country's business. ;)
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