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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:53 AM
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Bush: "That's why they're fighting so vociferously."
what the hell did chimpy mean by that?

i missed the "debate" last night but in the transcript i see this passage:

"In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. You know why? Because an enemy realizes the stakes. The enemy understands a free Iraq will be a major defeat in their ideology of hatred. That's why they're fighting so vociferously."

fighting so vociferously? what the hell is that idiot talking about?

i'm sure if i scoured the transcripts i could find more....i'll do that when i get more time.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:55 AM
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1. I always thought one used vociferous when
referring to cries of anguish.

Maybe Bush was trying to tell us the truth in a back-asswards sort of way? ;)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:56 AM
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More like bombastic
Not cries of anguish but being loud and strident. It was a clear mistake.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:05 AM
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18. Refers to language...
such as to "protest vociferously". I think stridently or loudly would be good synonyms. Just another Bush malaprop. Blech!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:55 AM
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2. He stumbled over the word
Clearly, he meant viciously or vigorously. He used the wrong word.

Later on, he almost said Saddam Hussein when he meant Bin Laden. He had most of "Saddam" out when he stopped and changed it. It was a really poor performance, even by his standards.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:56 AM
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7. Yeah, I think he meant viciously also.
The idiot is a national embarassment.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:02 AM
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12. Vigorously - that;'s probably it
I was trying to figure out what he could have been after. Assiduously?

What a maroon.
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:55 AM
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3. That's a typo...
Bush actually said that were fighting so "freciferously".

Later on, he twice made reference to the Korean Peninshula.

He sounded drunk.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:15 AM
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25. Correct
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 11:15 AM by are_we_united_yet
If you look "freciferous" up it means "the vigorous throwing of flowers at soldiers feet".

Can you believe this administration?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:56 AM
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4. At least he pronounced it right
Even if he didn't use it correctly.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:59 AM
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10. He barely got it out right. n/t
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carpe_vinum Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:03 AM
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16. No he didn't. I distinctly heard....
"forciferously" as did my grammar school child who looked up and said, "Does he have a word for the day calendar or something?"
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:11 AM
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24. No way
It totally sounded like he said "foriferously". I don't even know how they got vociferously out of that. I think when they were transcribing it, the spell check suggested vociferously for "foriferously" and they figured out what he meant.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:56 AM
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5. I envisioned Braveheart when Bush* said that...
Yelling and screaming while heading into battle!

vo·cifer·ous·ly adv.
vo·cifer·ous·ness n.

Synonyms: vociferous, blatant, boisterous, strident, clamorous
These adjectives mean conspicuously and usually offensively loud. Vociferous suggests a noisy outcry, as of vehement protest: vociferous complaints. Blatant connotes coarse or vulgar noisiness: “Up rose a blatant Radical” (Walter Bagehot). Boisterous implies unrestrained noise, tumult, and often rowdiness: boisterous youths. Strident stresses offensive harshness, shrillness, or discordance: a legislator with a strident voice. Something clamorous is both vociferous and sustained: a clamorous uproar.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:56 AM
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6. His addled brain was searching for 'viciously' n/t
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:57 AM
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8. That Was a Major Malapropism
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 10:57 AM by ribofunk
vociferously refers to speech, not actions. It was like saying they fight very loudly. And yes, he probably did mean vigorously.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:03 AM
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15. yeah, that's exactly what i thought when i read it.....
....he was looking for viciously but used vociferously.


the debate was a catastrophic success for bush.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:58 AM
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9. Well, he probably meant...
... "viciously."

Vociferous means noisy, clamorous. I guess their fighting is that, but the volume has little to do with its actual effects.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:01 AM
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11. They're not just mean, they're LOUD too!
23.


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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:09 AM
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21. heheh
very funny :toast:

Sid
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:02 AM
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13. Once again, he was telling the truth!
He's fighting little more than a war of words, and not actually DOING anything about the problem.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:02 AM
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14. yeah, I mean if they have to fight
they could least try to do it a little more quietly !
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:05 AM
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17. He didn't know what he meant or what the word vociferously
means. It was just a big word that he heard somewhere and he thought it sounded important. We all know people like that who hear a new word and start trying to use it a lot at inappropriate times.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:08 AM
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20. he's kinda like the boss of the bowery boys.....
....the guy who always misused multisyllabic words.
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:09 AM
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22. yeah, like Bush the schoolboy used
"lacerates" as a synonym for "tears" in reference to crying
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:07 AM
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19. I caught that, too. Would that they were only fighting "vociferously".
We could just give our troops ear plugs. They wouldn't need body armor!

Or they could do like Bush, cover their ears and say "LA LA LA LA LA!! I can't hear you!!"
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:10 AM
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23. They hate our freedoms vociferously.
nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:16 AM
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26. that's when my 16-year-old shook her head in disgust
and left the room to go do her homework.
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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:16 AM
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27. By the way..Joe Scarborough from MSNBC counted 11 times Bush used..
"Its hard work"

Scar said it was rather poor that Bush kept going back to that again and again.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:19 AM
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28. It was on his Word of the Day Calendar
and he suddenly realized that he hadn't used his new word, and had to get it in before bedtime.
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