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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:49 PM
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Is Fox News just making s**t up?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_09_26.php#003551

I don't expect much from this Republican operation. But this does seem to break new ground. If you go to the front page of the Fox News site, there's a link right there up front to "Trail Tales: What's that Face". Link through and you find this ...


Rallying supporters in Tampa Friday, Kerry played up his performance in Thursday night's debate, in which many observers agreed the Massachusetts senator outperformed the president.
"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!" Kerry said Friday.

With the foreign-policy debate in the history books, Kerry hopes to keep the pressure on and the sense of traction going.

Aides say he will step up attacks on the president in the next few days, and pivot somewhat to the domestic agenda, with a focus on women and abortion rights.

"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures," Kerry said.

Kerry still trails in actual horse-race polls, but aides say his performance was strong enough to rally his base and further appeal to voters ready for a change.

"I'm metrosexual — he's a cowboy," the Democratic candidate said of himself and his opponent.

A "metrosexual" is defined as an urbane male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.



Did Kerry really say that stuff? Stuff that sounds like classic winger parody? I looked around on google and no other reporters seem to have gotten those choice quotes from Senator Kerry. A source on the Kerry campaign told me Kerry certainly didn't say anything remotely like that.

So what's the story from Fox? Are these quotes real? Made up? Unidentified parody? Straight-up fabrications?

-- Josh Marshall
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:50 PM
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1. OK, they have finally flipped
I hope they get good and busted on this.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:50 PM
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2. I'm calling bullshit on this one.
It sounds like something Tina Fey would write for Jimmy Fallon, not John Kerry.

Desperation is an ugly crutch.
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:51 PM
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3. "I know Al Franken, and Faux News is no Al Franken"
once again

FUX News: Coming & Going
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bigfishsmallpond Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:52 PM
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4. must be some kind of satire
but for their audience, who cares?
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:52 PM
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5. straight up lies
lies, lies and more lies.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:59 PM
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6. I don't see it there, did they pull it down?
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:00 PM
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7. they pulled it down
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:03 PM
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8. They are the Bush Channel. They make shit up ***all the time***
Faux is not only a lost cause, it's a cancer on the cable landscape.

Take a look at "Outfoxed," if you haven't seen it already.
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 03:43 PM
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9. That is slander -But it's gone now
does anyone have a screen shot of it?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 03:49 PM
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10. Wasn't it Dean who said he was a metrosexual?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110004272

Am I the only one who remembers this item that has been sucked down the memory hole?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 03:59 PM
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11. That's retarded.

Someone should tell those idiots that their "Manly Man He-Man Cowboy" sounded like a whiny, petulant schoolgirl with ADD last night.

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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:03 PM
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12. some people say
faux always makes stuff up. I would say straight-up fabrications.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:13 PM
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13. They are now saying it was a mistake
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134166,00.html

Earlier Friday, FOXNews.com posted an item purporting to contain quotations from Kerry. The item was based on a reporter’s partial script that had been written in jest and should not have been posted or broadcast. We regret the error, which occurred because of fatigue and bad judgment, not malice.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:20 PM
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16. They regretted that people complained so quickly
It didn't spread near as far as they would have liked. Pretty funny reporters they got too. :eyes:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:21 PM
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17. We should call for this reporter to be fired..
kust like they did with Rather.

BTW, someone posted a screenshot of the article on an earlier thread.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:18 PM
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14. Reee-tracted!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:22 PM
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18. Carl Cameron, should have known
another political journalist with integrity /sarcasm
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:20 PM
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15. Does a bear s**t in the woods?
:shrug:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:22 PM
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19. It Was The Bushista Loving Carl Cameron.
Fire his ass now. How can they ever expect to get a "fair and balanced" story from him ever again. (not that he ever filed any in the first place)

Jay
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:22 PM
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20. Is this a trick question?? Of course FOX lies, and every chance they get!
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:23 PM
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21. They say it was an accident - but just imagine if CNN had done
something similar about the chimp.

Imagine the squeals from filthy right wing pigs all over the land. They'd be squealing like the disgusting pigs they are...

Fuck I hate wingers! Pigs!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:30 PM
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22. FLAT-OUT FIRST-HAND FORGED QUOTES are WORSE...
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 04:31 PM by LoZoccolo
...than putting up documents you don't know are fake!

AVENGE DAN RATHER!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:36 PM
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23. carl.cameron@foxnews.com
let him know what's on your mind. :)
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 04:45 PM
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24. Here's the email I just sent him
Mr Cameron:

You have always been suspected of having a serious pro-Bush bias, ever since your wife worked on his 2000 campaign. After your latest display of intense hatred of John Kerry (not to mention disturbing homophobia), there is absolutely no way you can continue to serve as Fox News's Kerry beat reporter. To salvage what's left of your dwindling reputation, and for the good of journalistic integrity (if that still means anything to you), you must immediately request reassignment from your producers and editors at Fox News. In fact, if you have any decency at all, you should resign from Fox News - after making a full, public apology to John Kerry and the American public.

Of course, since you work at Fox News, I know that the words "journalistic integrity" and "decency" mean nothing whatsoever to you or to your employers, so I'm not holding my breath. All you've done is confirm what everyone already knew about you, so I guess it's really no big deal, huh?

Why am I even wasting my time?

But someday, you'll wish you had shown some moral courage.
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