blueblitzkrieg
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:08 PM
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Who the hell is Pat Caddell??? |
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And why does this 'Democratic strategist' got such a boner for criticizing and slamming the Kerry campaign?
He's on O'Reilly, so I don't expect a whole lot, but still....Jesus Christ.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:10 PM
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1. Used to work for Jimmy Carter eom |
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:24 PM
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14. So did Tweedy and his a total repug too. n/t |
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:13 PM
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2. Used to be "Democratic pollster" now full time lunatic |
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permanently angry and crazier than Christopher Hitchens... well maybe that's a toss up.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:17 PM
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And he seems like he really hates Kerry. No wonder every time I click on Faux (not that often, mind you) his nasty mug is there speaking for the Democrats. Faux must think they hit the jackpot with him.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:17 PM
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4. Jimmy Carter's pollster... |
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if I remember right.
Don't know what happened to him. He apparently got back into the Big Time bashing Clinton.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:27 PM
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18. Most recent gig was adviser on The West Wing - but then |
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so was Peggy Nooooooooooonan.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:18 PM
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5. Miserable misanthropic traitorous cocksucker. |
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He's doing his best to suck O'Reilly's dick but O'Reilly keeps yanking it out of his mouth.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:23 PM
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Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 07:25 PM by DougieZero
I just wrote down his name so I could rag on him here... You beat me to it. I always thought you guys exaggerated about Fox News' bias, but man were they peeved today. The host from DaySide earlier today was like:
"But Kerry LIED about the SUBWAYS!!!"
I like the official Fox News spin... Kerry won on style... but Bush was the misunderstood genius.
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:28 PM
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I knew Caddell years ago in Cambridge. He was a moon faced self-important prat, and so enamoured with his own intellect that the urge to kick him afflicted many who came to know him.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:23 PM
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yeah a complete loser, Caddell really has something missing... But hey...he's getting paid by FAUX....so you know..
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:26 PM
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17. That must explain the drooling and the lazy eye |
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You guys shouldn't have kicked Pat in the head so often lol
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Fri Oct-01-04 07:32 PM
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He bashed the hell out of Gore in 2000. Think Zell Miller without the charm.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:10 PM
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9. Caddell revolutionized political polling in the 70s |
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Caddell basically revolutionized electoral polling in the 1970s, while still in his early 20s. He was McGovern's pollster, and is one of the people largely credited with getting McG the nom in 1972. His amazingly accurate polling during the primaries helped McG focus on the races he could win-- and not spend as much time on the losers.
He's worked for many others since then: Carter, Gary Hart and even Clinton IIRC. The man has put in his dues as not only a credible political analyst, but as a Democrat, too.
If any "Democratic Strategist" has a right to criticize a presidential campaign, it's Caddell.
Pat is voicing much of the frustration many of us have felt with the Kerry campaign since last summer: the lightweight platform, the ambiguity on Iraq, the lack of definition. Although Kerry's come along nicely since then, there's still a lot of us who are still ABB and not yet completely "pro-Kerry".
Caddell (like me) will vote for Kerry, but he still has major disagreements on strategy and policy with him, and will not hesitate to voice his opinion.
Besides, I thought this party was a "big tent"? :shrug:
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:20 PM
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10. Did you see the show? |
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He wasn't "criticizing" the Kerry campaign. He was saying that Bush won the debate, and with such relish & drool that even O'Reilly was disgusted with his Faux sycophancy.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:53 PM
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42. Did I see a different |
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show? :shrug:
I saw Pat Caddell say that Kerry did what he had to do and that Bush did NOT do what he had to do. Pat also estimated that Bush's lead would be cut in half in all the major polls. He did criticize both Bush and Kerry for things he thought could have been done differently-and in that part he criticized both of them brutally.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:24 PM
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13. Zell Miller paid his dues too. |
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They're both DINOs and Bush lovers. Neither can be accurately described as a Democrat. Caddell is more of a partisan Republican than Tucker Carlson.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:24 PM
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15. Even Oreichly didn't buy the crap caddell was spewing |
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Thats pretty pathetic when Oreichly is more objective than this bitter cyntz.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:25 PM
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:28 PM
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yeah pat...get a real job
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:31 PM
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22. Pat could wear a big tent |
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But I can do without him.
This is 2004 and I really don't care what that talk out of his ass loser did in the 70's.
He certainly didn't do Carter or McGovern any favors.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:37 PM
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26. And how did things work out for McGovern? |
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Who gives a fuck what this DINO piece of shit did in the 70's.
This is 2004. What has he done for us lately?
Bupkiss...
RL
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:38 PM
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27. Some clarification would be appreciated. |
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"If any "Democratic Strategist" has a right to criticize a presidential campaign, it's Caddell."
I find him to be a little sniveling snotnose, who's mouth and sphincter are interchangeable.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:46 PM
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29. There's no room in a "big tent" for people who want to burn it down. |
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Caddell is also singlehandedly responsible for Carter's hideous "malaise" speech, which he pushed and pushed for, even going over Mondale's head, who advised against it because he sensed what it would become.
Caddell hated Clinton. Caddell hated Gore. Caddell hates Kerry. Caddell plays quisling on an anti-Democratic news station. Get yourself a pup tent, and you and Caddell can make perfect liberal music together. If you work at it, you can squeeze Nadir in there too and form a trio. :shrug:
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:31 PM
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31. Riiiiight. And who appointed you 'membership chairman'? |
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Or maybe the circular firing squad is enough? :shrug:
SFW if Caddell hated Clinton, AND Gore. Both of them were mushball appoligists who talked a good line, but sold the Dems out to the Repubs whenever they got the chance. And despite the Kerry-Worship around here, not every Democrat is that enthusiastic about him, either. We're on board because we know Dubya is the worst president in 70 years.
Sorry, but as a Democratic president, Clinton was a dismal failure. Gore ran such a horseshit campaign that he lost to a certifiable moron who's entire experience was running successful companies (and states) into the ground.
Sorry, but Caddell is hardly the only Democrat who thinks Clinton and Gore sucked.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:45 PM
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and STFU this drivel is getting tiresome on night 2.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:48 PM
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41. It's Nad(ir) Not Nader... |
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Fuck Nad(i)r and the four million dollar portfolio he rode in on....
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:46 PM
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He's a Fifth Columinist who has lived on accomplishments from a generation ago...
I wouldn't piss down his throat if his heart was on fire...
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:33 PM
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32. He was comparing Bush to Reagan, and Kerry to Mondale. |
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Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 07:35 PM by The Chronicler
John Kasich (an actual former republican congressman) wasn't even agreeing with him.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:40 PM
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36. This guy has done nothing but bash Clinton, Gore and Kerry. |
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Misunderstood? I don't think so.
He's about as much a democrat as Dick Morris. They both suck hard.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:56 PM
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Dick the toe sucker Morris has ever claimed to be a republican has he? I thought he was well-known as a republican (Clinton used him on the team because he knew how the republicans operate).
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:43 PM
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38. Is He The Polling Maven Who Told Coke To Change His Formula? |
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:24 PM
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12. Oh man THAT guy...what a GOON! |
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He was one of softball's fave guests (Chrissy Mathews) leading up to selection 2000.
He is an insidious, weird assed, looking individual.
He bills himself as a Democratic pollster.
I literally watched him frothing at the mouth and drooling one time as he was bemoaning how inadequate Al Gore was.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:28 PM
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20. Pat Caddell is sasquatch |
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:31 PM
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21. Cadell's a public opinion pollster ... |
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... who worked for McGovern in '72 and Carter in '76.
He has also been a consultant, producer and writer for "The West Wing" TV series.
And he's interviewed on news shows and pundit shows all the time -- he always seems very angry about something.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:34 PM
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23. Pat Caddell's greatest hits. |
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The CBS memos mean that the election is over. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/10/130050.shtmlThe Democratic party is run by gangsters. http://jskelly.squarespace.com/blog/2004/9/15/pat-caddell-democratic-party-run-by-crypto-gangsters.htmlJanet Reno and Bill Clinton had a corrupt deal in place. http://www.dailyhowler.com/h092099_1.shtmlThe Pat Caddell drinking game. http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/hiball.htmCombine that with the fact that he looks like Evil Spock, and you've got the Freepers' 2nd favorite Democrat (behind Zell).
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:36 PM
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24. He's a repugnant man who has a problem |
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keeping snots out of his beard and mustache. He makes me sick. Yucky
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:37 PM
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25. The man with the rug on his head? |
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Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 08:37 PM by Bushneedstogo
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:39 PM
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28. Is that the Fat ass guy |
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thats always humped over? He's no damn Democratic strategist. He's been doing nothing but ripping Dems since the 2000 election.
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Fri Oct-01-04 08:50 PM
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30. For all the deserved criticism of Chris Matthews |
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At least we were spared the pompous pairing of Pat Cadell and Peggy Noonan last night.
Cadell rejected any semblance of competence years ago. I have a dozen tapes from election 2000. Cadell actually denied Gore was hurt by those butterfly and multipage ballots in Palm Beach and Duval. He was frothing whenever the Broward County election commisioners ruled a punch card as a vote for Gore, even if it was a 3-0 vote. One segment busts me up in particular. I keep the tape rewound to the exact point. "Those 500 votes in Broward have no business being there! This is theft, I'm telling you! In all my years in politics, Chris, I have never seen such...I can't even...this is never going to stand up! Does the world understand what's going on here?"
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Sat Oct-02-04 08:13 PM
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45. Bitter That The Dems Stopped Using His Polling Outfit |
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:37 PM
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33. Actually, I think he was pro-Dean. |
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He seemed to be real bitter when Dean started to tank.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:37 PM
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34. He's a Dick Morris Democrat |
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Basically, a DINO - Democrat in Name Only. Talk shows love him because he's a sort-of Democrat who loves to criticize the Democrats. They love the self-hating Democrat and Caddell is certainly one of them. Why anyone thinks he has anything worth saying is beyond me. I doubt very much he's an insider anymore after how he treated Gore in the 2000 post-election debacle.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:39 PM
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I saw on O'Reilly who said the only news source he could trust was O'Reilly's show.
A "Democrat" who bashes Kerry and praises O'Reilly, if Fox News were Playboy, Caddell would be the Playmate of the Year.
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Sat Oct-02-04 07:40 PM
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37. Who the hell is Pat Caddell. A poem. |
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Who the Hell Is Pat Caddell? He's the DINO who tells that Kerry really smells and the words Pat sells while his hands are shifting shells will make his retirement swell while Democracy fell.
RTP
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