If you're not watching Eliz. Edwards on CSPAN you should be!

[DianeG5385]

Right now, a 99 year old former Lt. Commander breaking down the failure of leadership on 911. He says hey! We took down 4 Kamikazees in 30 minutes, why did it take G.B. 2 hours to act????? This is a good show!

[beaconess]

1. She looks and sounds great - "We have two wars"-

"The war in Afghanistan, which is America's war. And George Bush's war in Iraq."

BAM!

[blueblitzkrieg]

4. I agree.

I said this on another thread, I think she's one of the best spokespeople for Kerry. She's warm, direct, smart as a whip, and convincing as hell. She's a great woman and a great asset to the Kerry campaign.

[theHandpuppet]

27. Ditto that!

More of Elizabeth Edwards!!

[CrowNotAngelGRL]

35. I think Mrs. Edwards

is a great person. :) I'm glad she and John Edwards are on the campaign too. :D

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. Now, talking about Dover

and how we can't honor the returning dead. NEEDS TO BE SAID!

And we're fighting 2 wars: Iraq and the war on terror. NEEDS TO BE SAID!

Love this woman!

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[beaconess]

6. How can a lawyer make millions on a frivolous (check your spelling) suits?

If a jury determines that a plaintiff should win and the defendant should pay her millions in damages, the suit, by definition, is not frivolous.

So run along back to Freeperland where they don't know any better. We don't have time for your crap in here.

[fairfaxvadem]

7. Go back to insulting Sandra Day O'Connor

After you've had one too many.

Pest.

[theHandpuppet]

26. LOL!!

I caught that, too. You beat me to the punch(line). :D

[DianeG5385]

13. Spontaneous combustion

You got a problem with people making money?? You got a problem with republican or only democratic money? You got a problem with someone who HELPS the injured and makes money? Do you prefer it when G. Bush and Dick C. make money by screwing the little guy?? Sounds like you have a serious disconnect with reality and only buy in to GOP "soundbites". I know it's hard for you to process this information as I guess you're going to pull the trial lawyer crap. Well, without trial lawyers GB* would not be Prez!

[TrustingDog]

31. since when is making honest money a sin? Cheney to the Gulag!!!!

edited for the honest word.

[welshTerrier2]

16. frivilous ???

wanna back that up mr. republican talking point ???

[beaconess]

17. That's the moran spelling

[undercover_brother]

19. National image reform

We are more interested in ending frivilous wars and National image reform.

[DianeG5385]

20. What a great line!

Here's a potential quote:

George Bush wants to end frivolous lawsuits. Kerry Edwards want to end frivolous wars. No one ever died as a result of a frivolous lawsuit. More than 1000 have died in Geo. Bush's frivolous war!

[welshTerrier2]

25. riggins44 has been tombstoned ...

if you're still reading this thread, understand this ...

republicans love to spew all sorts of nonsense about the "free market" ... the public's right to sue is part of that market ... why the hell would you want to pass laws allowing corporations that produce unsafe, defective products that hurt or kill people to be "free" from lawsuits ???

your absurd characterization of mr. edwards shows that you are not a thinking person but rather a republican parrot ... all you can do is repeat republican talking points ...

no one here supports frivolous lawsuits ... but we strongly support sticking it to companies that make unsafe products ... and we hold a very special place in our hearts for companies that continue to sell products they know are unsafe ...

instead of coming on here and intelligently discussing tort reform, you do nothing but demonstrate your ignorance about mr. edwards ... have a nice life, tombstone ted ... the problem is not little people sticking it to big business; the problem is big business sticking it to little people ... wake up dude, you're on the wrong side ...

[indyjones1938]

30. Hi!

Welcome to DU. Hope you enjoy your short stay! :hi:


By the way, care to tell me which of John Edwards' cases were "frivolous?"

Maybe the one where he defended a five year-old girl who was disemboweled (had her internal organs sucked out) by a defective swimming pool? Nope, don't think so.

Or maybe the one where doctors botched a c-section and gave a young baby quadriplegia and cerebral palsy? Nah, doesn't sound frivolous to me?

Perhaps the case where a man had an 850 lb box dropped on him by a transport service, leaving him paralyzed for life? Or maybe the cases where he represented families of people killed by tractor trailers as a result of improper company policies? Do those sound frivolous to you?

See, here's the difference between Democrats and Republicans:

Republicans believe the value of a human life can be put into dollar figures ($250,000 maximum). If a multibillion dollar corporation or millionnaire physician knowingly and repeatedly commits wrongdoing that results in a human being being killed or maimed, Republicans feel that they should not have to be held responsible for their actions. Under the Republican "tort reform" plan, companies with defective products will weigh the potential number of human deaths against the potential cost of recalling the unsafe products. If a company feels that a defective product might kill only three or so people, they'll estimate their maximum loss at $750,000, much lower than the millions they would have to spend to recall the dangerous product. That company is going save a few million dollars by keeping their product on the market instead of recalling it. And if a few people die because if it, they'll say "so what?" Under the Republican plan, the number of people killed and maimed each year by doctors and defective products would rapidly increase because there is no standard of accountability.

Democrats believe that you can't put a maximum price on the value of a human life. If there are no standards of accountability in the medical and corporate world, the rights of the patient and the consumer go down the drain. The simple fact is, "tort reform" doesn't begin in the courtroom: it begins in the operating room and the board room. If companies and physicians willingly make decisions that result in people being killed and maimed, they should be held accountable for their actions. It is as simple as that. Did you know, riggins44, that 400,000+ people in the United States die every year as a result of physicians' negligence? That's six times as many people as we lost in the entire 10-year Vietnam War, and four hundred times as many as we have lost in Iraq.

And the Republican talking point about trial lawyers "raising insurance premiums" is spin at best, and an outright lie at worst.

The truth is, lawyers don't raise insurance premiums. Insurance companies and HMOs do. The health care crisis in this country exists because insurance companies are out of control and so closely tied to the stock market and the corporate world.

If you actually took the time to look into the statistics instead of just reading the RNC talking points you would realize three things:

(a) In the early 1990s, while insurance premiums were flat and FALLING, medical malpractice suits were actually on the INCREASE.

(b) The average per annum rate of insurance premium increases is over DOUBLE the rate of malpractice judgement increases.

(c) The total amount of money awarded in malpractice suits has FALLEN in recent years, while insurance rates have RISEN.

If you've got a problem with insurance premiums, complain to the guy at 1600 Pennsylania Avenue and his GOP cronies in Congress. They are, after all, the ones who are bankrolling the drug companies and HMOs, while refusing to take measures that would lower the price of prescription drugs and insurance premiums. George W. Bush had the chance to allow these companies to import drugs from Canada so as to lower drug prices here in the states, but he refused. The blame rests with him alone

[kwolf68]

32. This is an ass-kicking post

I can't find a single thing at fault with it. Awesome.

Edwards needs to be ready with something like this. If he mentions the comments above Cheney will be left wetting his depends. The "frivolous" lawyer BS will be retired.

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. Awesome!

Just the best response ever! :yourock:

[shrub chipper]

34. Welcome to DU, riggins44

...and also buh-bye!

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. Thanks for the heads up!

She is great!

[BamaLefty]

9. The Town Hall Meeting in Westover, WV?

She is doing great! Go Lizzy!

[speedoo]

8. Thanks for the heads up.

She is West Virginia, and she is rocking!!

[ET Awful]

10. That guy was awesome :)

I loved every second of him.

I served for 3 1/2 years, 8 hours a day, 2 4 hour shifts. :) :) :)

[txindy]

11. Whoa. She is absolutely excellent.

I'm very impressed. Way to go! Please let the networks (especially C-span) continue to broadcast her appearances. It's shameful the way both John and Elizabeth Edwards are made to seem as if they've disappeared since the convention -- and all because the media is not reporting, let alone broadcasting, their appearances. Shameful.

Elizabeth Edwards is blowing me away on this show tonight. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

[speedoo]

12. She is just amazing!!

She is with the military moms and wives.

But I have never seen a candidate's wife speak this effectively.

Just ripping the coWard.

[life_long_dem]

14. Wow, what a speaker she is

I've never really heard her tell it like it is. She ROCKS!!!

[speedoo]

15. How about the Presbyterian minister?

He was superb.

[cheshire]

18. Thanks I love her.

[gauguin57]

21. Her comment about value-laden words ...

Bush uses a lot of value-laden words, Elizabeth says, but he also makes a lot of value-laden CHOICES that don't jibe with the words.

Oh YEAH!

I'm voting for ELIZABETH for president!

[DianeG5385]

22. Elizabeth had an amazing conclusiom

She is seriously underestimated! She brought 2 little kids up at the end and said this election is about the mothers, the children and the men in uniform and if Kerry is elected you will have a president who will go to the Oval Office every and remember why we hired him in the first place!

[liskddksil]

23. That was a very powerful moment

[DianeG5385]

24. Kick to 700 get me outta here!

Please! i don't get a chance to post often but now I need a mega boost to 800. I know, this is a du Lounge topic, help me if you can, I'll now post to the lounge!

[JI7]

28. if more people could see her

actually the same goes for the kerry couple and john edwards also. but if more people could just see them as they are we would have an easier time. but the media either ignores them completely or they report on them with spin favorable to bush. when reporting the bush side they usually just play a clip of what he said and was doing .

[cally]

29. She mentioned Du on one of her blog

statements.

I have so much respect for her. She is intelligent, informed and outspoken. Thank you Elizabeth.