Bush's "ownership society"...he's using it right now on TV.

[Guaranteed]

There has GOT to be a way for us to spin this in our favor, use it against him. There's something wrong with that phrase, although I can't quite pin it down without sounding like a sissy liberal.

We have to pin that shit down using our typical American values.

[NC_Nurse]

1. He means the

ownership of the many by the few!

[Guaranteed]

5. That's excellent...

Can you think of counter-catch-phrase that makes use of "ownership" like Bush's phrase? Like..."ownership...(something)".... Either make fun of his message or make one of our own.

[radfringe]

8. he means his corporate buddies

will own society

"moved 16 tons and what do you get
another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter don't call me, 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the corporate stores...."

[jobycom]

2. The Ante-Bellum South was an ownership society. nt.

[meow2u3]

3. An "ownership society" is the last thing we need

What America needs is a stewardship society. The idea of a cannabalistic, dog-eat-dog ownership society will be the fall of the United States of America.

[Guaranteed]

7. Yes, something about pitting Americans against each other, maybe?

Once again, Bush is dividing the country....????

[mindem]

4. It's really the "on your own" society. N/T

[Guaranteed]

6. THAT'S a good one...nice. nt

[roseBudd]

10. Privatizing Social Security will cost $3 trillion in transition costs

and Bush blew the surplus.

Talking points for LTTEs:

Social Security Scares
by Paul Krugman
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0305-04.htm

Privatizing Social Security
A Third Rail for the GOP
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0619-03.htm

on tax cuts:
Dooh Nibor Economics
by Paul Krugman
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0601-07.htm

[Deja Q]

18. which is a contradiction in terms, right out of Margaret Thatcher's diary.

(see sig line)

[KharmaTrain]

9. Yeah, And You Think The Media Will Play That Positively?

We can't get the truth about Bunnypant's military record out or get this media to investigate the many lies and deceptions this regime have pulled over the past 3 years...whose gonna take time to go back 60 years and two generations removed? We've got many out there who thinks Vietnam was some TV show and not relevent to the quagmire we're in now, how do you expect someone to connect all those dots that are so removed from today.

Also, if Kerry dare attacks the Bush family he distracts from the message we need to constantly focus on over the next 4 weeks...the destruction of this country by this regime by their current actions. Any attack Kerry makes will be viewed by a media that's already stacked against us as a desperation move and surely would backfire.

If you think the wingnuts get their panties in a wad when you "disrespct this pResident", dare imagine the reaction/response from the media when you try to hurl connections to real fascists and Nazis in there.

We've got plenty on this manchild on his own record and his own words. Let's make the most use of those.

Cheers!

[jobycom]

11. A local candidate for US House here in Austin

Lorenzo Sadun, a Democrat running as a write in here in Austin for the US House has a speech based on that phrase. He says that the Republicans talk about an ownership society, but not when it comes to our governmnet. Our government is owned by a few corporations, not by society. We have to take it back, to get involved, to make it ours. No one ever washes rental cars, he says, meaning no one takes care of something that isn't theirs, and that's why Americans are apathetic about voting, and that's why our government and our nation is in such a shambles.

By reclaiming our government, by owning it, we can build a better America, for all of society.

BTW, if you live in the 10th House district in Texas (It's the redistricted one stretching between Austin and Houston), you don't have a Democrat on the ballot, but you can write in the name "Sadun" on the evote machine. He's registered, so it will count. He won't win, but if he gets a decent percentage we will have sent our message.

[flpoljunkie]

12. "Ownership society" shorthand for "privatizing" government programs and

services, the proceeds of which go to his corporate cronies--Wall Street firms for social security "ownership/privatization" and big insurance companies for "health security accounts"--such as Newt Gingrich's Golden Rule Insurance Company.

It is a scam from Bush, the flim-flam artist, who is left almost totally unexamined by the American press.

Ownership equals privatization which means big bucks for Bush's corporate cronies who bankroll his campaign and his party.

[Guaranteed]

21. Yes yes yes how about we change it to "corporate society." nt

[punpirate]

13. "Ownership society"...

means "Wall Street owns the paper on your future."

[kentuck]

14. He's already made us an "ownership" society....??

Look how much debt he has created. All of us own George W Bush's credit card.

[randr]

15. "Ownership Society" = "Preditor Society".

[Kierkegaard]

16. The spin is already built into his idea of 'ownership'

What he means is: no more Federal safety net. Ownership = responsibility. YOU own it, health care, retirement, debt, unemployment, education, 'you name it' social program. It's another point of division, another adjunct to increase the social and financial disparity of Americans. More lipstick for the pig.

[GetaKungFuGrip]

17. Personal Bankruptcies...are they at record highs?

Pretty sure I heard that BK's are at record high's.
How do you create an ownership society when American's are filing for bankruptcy at record rates?

[Cerridwen]

19. Ownership? By whom? Of who? Of what? n/t

[UTUSN]

20. & You Thought the 1st Term Was a Nighmare

************QUOTE*********

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/08/25/bush_second_term/index.html

And you thought his first term was a nightmare
What Bush has planned for America if he wins.
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By Charles Tiefer

Aug. 25, 2004 | .... Under Bush's slogan of an "ownership society," the Republicans intend a long-term effort, using changes in Medicare, Social Security and taxes to pit better-off and worse-off Democrats against each other, offering all-but-irresistible incentives for some to desert the others -- and any progressive national coalition. .... A second-term Bush agenda will constantly impale Democrats on the dilemma of abandoning their poorer, sicker, older and minority groups, or seeing their better-off, healthier and younger members lured off to the other party. If it sounds like a political nightmare for the Democrats, that's because that's what it is planned to be. ....

********UNQUOTE*******

[MallRat]

22. "You can't own something if you don't have the money to pay for it."

All of Bush's "ownership society" plans are dependent on the notion that families have disposable income, or for that matter, have any INCOME AT ALL.

How are middle-class and working-poor families supposed to invest in health savings accounts when they're living from paycheck-to-paycheck, deciding which bill to pay from month-to-month?

And his plans for Social Security are completely unhinged from reality- by raiding the Trust Fund, Social Security is living hand-to-mouth, too. The money we pay into Social Security today goes to help recipients TODAY. If you privatize Social Security, then what happens to the people who are depending on those funds for the next 2 decades?

It's just another example of the GOP putting up rhetoric to get people to vote against their own best interests.

-MR

[barb162]

23. what ownership society (laugh) , people are losing their houses

and jobs due to the Bush recession that never ends.

[annabanana]

24. "Own your triple by-pass"

That means you're "allowed" to save up for it YOURSELF and you can pay for it YOURSELF.

What a massive steaming load of crap!